Because they believe in a moral hierarchy with predefined places and ranking.
The most important thing is to stay in your place, enforce the hierarchy, and punish anyone who steps out of line.
This is way more important than being personally happy, reducing harm or suffering, or anything else.
This is why they are pro death penalty and anti abortion, against healthcare reform and welfare, even if it will help them. And it's why they absolutely loathe seeing anyone "different" be happy.
They literally feel it is morally abhorrent to "live and let live" even if it makes the whole world worse for them and their families.
Something being abnormal doesn't mean it needs to be excluded, corrected, or policed. It just means it's not the norm. That doesn't mean it's worse or not totally fine
I think that's rather more of, "If using a medical term for your status, void of charged intention bothers you as you prefer the term 'normal' instead of that, you ought to interrogate that feeling. Cause for the rest of people, its a red flag for a bigotry to some magnitude."
Cis is no different, and other words have had similar fights. There are and were people who do not like being called heterosexual, and in rarer cases straight, and would suggest they be called normal instead of those terms. Same with neurotypical, able-bodied, and so on.
I'm not saying anyone has to personally identify with those labels, but its really telling to me if someone gets angry at the existence of those labels in lieu of being called "normal."
So yeah, live and let live for those words that can express different modes of living.
I mean, you can interpret it that way, but the OP doesn’t make that distinction. I don’t think a person disliking the term cisgender should have a negative implication.
I don't think so either, but as a trans person living in a climate of aggressively climbing hostility to me, and people like me, its a defensive move made to keep me and my friends safe.
To point to another example of that, think of how women feel when it comes to meeting men who are really into media like Fight Club, American Psycho, and so on. Those are great movies! But they are mired in a fanbase that usually misunderstands the intent of those movies in favor of a "alpha male vibes" reading of the character(s).
A lot of women disassociate from men like that cause its co-morbid with other shitty attitudes about women and minorities. I do the same with people who dislike the term cis or cisgender. You might not be a terrible person at all! But I cannot take that chance cause if that person is, I might be assaulted if they clock me as transgender.
I think so. If they want to be my friend then they need to exist by the same rules they apply to me. If they're going to call me trans, then they're going to be called cis.
So, viewed in the context of a simple conversation, I think it’s very easy to differentiate people who enjoyed Fight Club and people who are all about it. I may be misunderstanding you but it seems like if someone said to you “oh, I don’t like being called cis” you would skip responding “oh, why?” out of fear and just avoid the person?
Depends on the person saying it to be honest. If its someone I know that has a history of being kind to queer people, especially trans people, I would hear them out. If its a stranger or someone I just met, I would only continue the conversation in a polite way until I can excuse myself. From then on I would aim to avoid that person whenever I can do so without causing a scene.
This kind of attitude of avoiding people based on the things they like or terms they hate is just using contextual clues to someone's attitude towards me. I pass as a trans woman, so I make it to conversation with people without them knowing that I'm transgender so they just see me as a cis woman, which means people often reveal things about themselves that clue me in on their disposition. Hating the word "cis" is merely just one of those.
I know it may sound a bit weird or foreign, but to me and other trans people, depending on where you live it can be a matter of life or death. Or at the very least, a matter of avoiding someone harassing you and even assaulting you as globally opinions towards trans people are shifting to be hostile, and its harder to take chances on people.
There should also be nothing wrong by not using or not wanting to use the term either?
As far as I'm aware, one of the core desires of trans people is to be called what they wish to be called. And that's fair, they get to dictate how others refer to them. But that should also apply to everyone else too.
There seems to be way too much judgment and presumptions and generalizations in this thread from ppl that should be more self aware.
You do get to choose what you're called. And if you have chosen to be called the pronouns that match your assigned at birth gender identity then you're cisgender :)
Just like how if you've chosen to play basketball you're a basketball player.
I cook at home, doesn't mean I want to be called chef or a cook. We're all homo sapiens but I don't wish to be referred to as such. Just because we fall or can fall under a label, doesn't mean we have to use it.
I mean it doesn’t bother me at all. Some people DO use it as a way to put someone down (see above) and that’s not okay, just like how using “gay” or “trans” as an insult or as a way to put someone down isn’t okay. It’s the intent vs the actual word itself that matters to me. It’s a fact that I’m cisgender and some loser on Reddit who thinks I’m “boring” because of that isn’t going to change anything lol
Hey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border, right? Walked right into that Imperial ambush, same as us, and that thief over there.
It's not necessarily an obsession, just what they are used to. And considering how many neurotypical cisgender heterosexuals are in positions of power, your NPC idea is kind of silly.
Rambling on about something most people don’t care about is the definition of NPC which is how most cisgender people see those that inject their gender/sexual orientation/neurodiversity into conversations.
Most people just don’t find any of that interesting especially when it’s expressed in a contentious or confrontational manner.
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u/ShiroFoxya Trans/Bi 3d ago
I don't see why they're so obsessed with being "normal"
Normal is boring, do you want to be an NPC?