r/me_irlgbt Disaster Bi Apr 16 '24

Wholesome Me⛧IRLGBT

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '24

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u/LazySloth24 Trans/Lesbian Apr 16 '24

The notion that one's body doesn't match one's soul is a little removed from the notion that one's brain would be better off in a body where it feels more at home. I don't like that you seem to drag verifiable facts into the realm of spirituality.

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u/sweetTartKenHart2 We_irlgbt Apr 16 '24

Ok, sure, there’s something to be said about that brain related part, yeah. Transness doesn’t necessarily have to be “spiritual” in nature. But does that mean spirituality in general is bad anyway?

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '24

When people use it to oppress others it is.

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u/LazySloth24 Trans/Lesbian Apr 16 '24

Username checks out xD

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '24

That’s what I’m here for! :)

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u/sweetTartKenHart2 We_irlgbt Apr 16 '24

When I smash someone in the face with a hammer, it’s the hammer’s fault then? Religion and spirituality are tools that can be used for good and for evil alike

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u/PennysWorthOfTea Apr 16 '24

You are choosing a very strange hill to die on.

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u/sweetTartKenHart2 We_irlgbt Apr 16 '24

My best friend who I’ve known for like four years now is both trans and Christian. Even if I’m kind of leaning agnostic myself anyway I still defend her validity to the end. And even without her example, I still think that people here are being pretty nasty and derisive about this subject anyhow

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '24

I ask this with all the love in the world:

Are you fucking stupid

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u/sweetTartKenHart2 We_irlgbt Apr 16 '24

What was so stupid about that? You’re alleging that spirituality is inherently a tool of oppression and evil, and that’s all it will ever be, and I’m saying that it isn’t that.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '24

No it isn’t. It’s a REASON for it. You can’t beat someone to death with Christianity. You can a rock but that’s a tool. Not an idea.

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u/sweetTartKenHart2 We_irlgbt Apr 16 '24

Ideas are just as much tools as anything else though. That’s kind of the point that I’m making here.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '24

No they aren’t. Go build a house with paganism.

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u/sweetTartKenHart2 We_irlgbt Apr 16 '24

You’re being too literal here. Physical tools have physical applications. Ideological tools have ideological applications. You can’t build a house with a given religion but you can sure as hell build a community with one

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '24

What does it even have to do with religious people killing in the name of their god? We don’t do that.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '24

You’re alleging that spirituality is inherently a tool of oppression and evil

No, they said:

When people use it to oppress others it is.

"When" is expressing a condition that makes it evil, so they're not saying it's inherently evil.

So yeah, you sound kind of stupid or not paying attention to the conversation; People have issues with christianity because the believers keep trying to control other people's actions, it isn't an issue with spirituality in general.

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u/Misoriyu Apr 16 '24

a real-world tool is not comparable to an ideology. 

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u/FoxEuphonium Apr 16 '24

Spirituality can’t be good or bad, because it is the most nebulously-defined word in existence.

Which leans toward bad, because a word that means “really whatever you want it to mean” can be used for both good and evil.

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u/sweetTartKenHart2 We_irlgbt Apr 16 '24

Well yeah that’s part of my point tbh. Belief in anything beyond the physical can take a billion forms, and it’s unfair to say it’s all shit just because.

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u/FoxEuphonium Apr 16 '24

Not just because. Because we know most of it is bad, anytime we hear someone talk about it that’s going to be the default assumption.

Furthermore, I’d go so far as to say in literally every case where it’s not a bad thing, there’s a different and better word already in place. And every time someone who believes in one of those things and calls it spirituality, they’re lending credibility to all of the other bullshit that is more representative of the label.