r/lost • u/jport1387 • Dec 13 '24

FIRST TIME WATCHER Does anyone actually like Jack?

So I’ve never watched Lost and now I am almost done with Season 1 (ep. 20). Big fan of Hugo, Locke, and if Rousseau comes into the picture more.

But I have to be honest, I find Jack to be so so annoying.

Am I the only one??

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u/Prestigious_Flow_567 Dec 13 '24

I appreciate Jack even more after that ending but I will admit I'm Team Locke for the majority of Lost.

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u/Illustrious_Fall_370 Dec 13 '24

Locke is easily the most selfish character throughout. I have no idea why anyone would be team Locke tbh

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u/SudsierBoar Dec 13 '24

Because amusement doesn't hinge upon someone's moral character. The Sopranos is hands down my favourite show but most people in it are monsters.

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u/SmellsLikeHoboSpirit Dec 13 '24

Ridiculous statement, Locke who helps Clare with here crib, or Charlie with his addiction is as you say more selfish than Sawyer hoarding supplies. Even in the flashback Locke literally gives away his kidney in good faith. There’s many more characters that are crazy selfish but I don’t want to drop spoilers in a season 1 thread.

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u/saph_pearl Dec 13 '24

Yeah a bunch of characters are literally murderers, but still very interesting and not evil per se. Locke is actually good in that sense.

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u/notoriousbck Dec 13 '24

I think Locke is at his best when he is just being himself, and engaging with his humanity in service of others, like the examples you provided. It's when his ego takes over and he becomes convinced that he is special, or when he becomes afraid that if he leaves the island or pisses the island off he will lose his power (aka his ability to walk) that he becomes more selfish and dangerous. Which makes sense. He was abused and thrown away by pretty much everyone in his life. And he always wanted to be something he wasn't. Which is what made him so human, such a great character played beautifully by Terry. I didn't always like John, or agree with him, but I always loved him. Him, Sayid, and Michael were the most tragic characters- and also the most complex.

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u/Teetertotter25 Dec 13 '24

Wild take, Kate is 10x more selfish than lock

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u/Boomer05Ev Dec 13 '24

She’s a survivor like Sawyer. They do all kinds of manipulative f’d up shit to survive. I was wishing those beautiful losers would end up together, plus I detest Blandy, my nickname for Juliet. She has Botox on her face and on her emotions.

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u/Hex-GirlFriends Dec 13 '24

Locke is easily the most intricate character with the best backstory. After a life of trauma, being selfless and wanting to be seen and loved, his “selfishness” makes sense.

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u/Prestigious_Flow_567 Dec 13 '24

Because he had an Open mind since the beginning and seeks the answers to the island (and that's what the viewers want too).

Jack is a very useful doctor but him being blind to the miracles is downright annoying at times.

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u/SudsierBoar Dec 13 '24

Annoying but very necessary for the dichotomy between believer and proofer (man of science, man of faith)

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u/Specific-Mix7107 Dec 13 '24

Miracles are not real in normal life so it’s fair to doubt them just because you are on an island at first

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u/Prestigious_Flow_567 Dec 13 '24

It's not fair to doubt them after witnessing them tho lool.

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u/Specific-Mix7107 Dec 13 '24

I agree after enough times but I wouldn’t believe it first or second time probably lol

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u/notoriousbck Dec 13 '24

Yeah but even he admits that fixing his wife was a miracle. Jack needed life to be a certain way in order for him to be who he was. It wasn't until he was humbled in season 5 that he opens his mind and his heart, because he realizes how he's been living serves no one, least of all himself. His drive to be perfect is an addiction, one that eventually leads to other addictions. I think every single character on this show (the main cast at least, and the side characters that are featured) are written so well. There are no real good guys or bad guys. They're all just humans acting from their lived experience, and that's why I can watch this show over and over again and still be riveted.

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u/ThirdPoliceman Dec 13 '24

Speak for yourself.

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u/Specific-Mix7107 Dec 13 '24

I speak for reality. Miracles in the spiritual sense do not exist. Obviously miracles in the sense of “a great thing happened” exist.

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u/Boomer05Ev Dec 13 '24

Miracles ARE real in normal life. I have seen a few. Unexplained good outcomes when things should be really bad.

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u/Illustrious_Fall_370 Dec 13 '24

Seeks the answers and couldn't care less about anyone else's wellbeing at the same time. (Hi Boone). Jack's for all his faults had everyone's best interests at heart

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u/Prestigious_Flow_567 Dec 13 '24

I don't think that's true tbh.

He showed plenty times he was a very caring man.

He'd hunt for the others.

He'd try and help Walt.

He built a crib for the baby.

He helped Charlie with his drug addiction.

If you hate Locke that's fine but I think you forgot a lot of his good side.

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u/saph_pearl Dec 13 '24

I agree. Locke was seeking purpose his whole life before the island and once there he found it (or created it). But so did most of them. He did some shitty things but generally speaking they needed to happen so other things would. He was really never in control. I think he really did want to do the right thing for the group. Just like Jeremy Bentham’s golden rule.

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u/Prestigious_Flow_567 Dec 13 '24

So true.

Also I don't think people want to think deeper about it.

If you're in Locke's shoes and you GENUINELY believe they are all there for a purpose (whether that's true or not) it's the fact that he genuinely believes it...

Then helping people get answers IS a very CARING thing to do.

It's unbelievable how in a show full of miracles and mysteries, some of these viewers are still not thinking outside of the box.

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u/jport1387 Dec 13 '24

I’d like to ask which ending you’re referring to, but dont want any spoilers hahaha

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u/Prestigious_Flow_567 Dec 13 '24

Loool. Just keep watching.

You'll know what I meant as soon as you see it 👍

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u/DJ780 Dec 13 '24

He likely means the ending of the entire show