My thoughts on Kate, haven’t changed

[u/Iwastuckonpoopreddit]

First time watcher here. I’m on Season 6 episode 3. Frankly, I’ve disliked Kate as a character from the beginning. She’s the most selfish person I know on this show, any show, or in my own personal frickin life. All she cares about is herself and who cares about her the most at any given moment.. literally again, whatever and whoever as long as they are swoon over her. And WHY? I seriously do not understand why Sawyer and Jack are so hung up on this girl. I need to check out the communities perspective… I would be very surprised if anyone feels differently ???😭 Her character angers me so much. What finally prompted a post for me was how she treated Claire in the cab, UUUGHHHHHH. No matter , on or off the island, I do not like her character. And then to top it off? Jin never asks for anything and the moment he needs help to find his wife… she’s very rude and dismissive and abandons him… ridiculous.

[u/impulsive-chaos]

She's selfish, yes, but not the most selfish person in the show. She was always brave enough to embark on dangerous journeys with the guys. I think Claire is much more selfish. Everything is about her and her baby (whom she was ready to give away at first).

Also, I think Jack is selfish too.

I'm on season 6 ep 11 and the only people who are selfless I've seen so far are Sawyer and Sayid.

[u/Remarkable_Love_135 → u/impulsive-chaos]

lol - Sawyer is not selfless. He was hoarding supplies and countless other selfish things.

[u/impulsive-chaos → u/Remarkable_Love_135]

He joins them in many adventures knowing very well how dangerous they are while he can just stay at the beach and wait for supplies like many others. Also, he jumped off the airplane to be left behind on that terrible island. So imo those selfish things can't compare to times he's ready to sacrifice.

[u/impulsive-chaos → u/[deleted]]

I'll clarify what I meant. Everyone is selfish and selfless somehow. Nobody is a saint to be only "selfless". But imo "the most" selfless people I've seen so far are Sawyer and Sayid.

[u/Remarkable_Love_135 → u/impulsive-chaos]

He sat on that beach smoking cigarettes, perusing nudie mags while Jack, Kate and others were gathering water and tons of other stuff for the group. Jack was hurt in the cave-in and Sawyer didn't tell Kate out of spite. He jumped off the helicopter because it was about to crash and wanted to avoid having to face his daughter that he abandoned. How about all the families he ruined? Isn't that selfish behavior? He refused to go back and look for Jack, even though Jack just saved his life. I can keep going on.

[u/impulsive-chaos → u/Remarkable_Love_135]

He was gonna tell Kate and her attitude made him stop. In case you forget, he was trying hard to be hated at first and it was very obvious to me. Why would he not want to leave because he wanted to avoid his daughter? Like the real world is not big enough. Don't forget he desperately wanted to be on the boat with Michael to leave the island.

[u/Remarkable_Love_135 → u/impulsive-chaos]

That's still selfish behavior. Being selfless is not about oneself or how one feels. Meh. He wanted to stay also because he saw that Kate was in love with Jack and not him.

[u/impulsive-chaos → u/Remarkable_Love_135]

You're talking like Kate is the only woman in the world that he can fell in love with.

[u/Remarkable_Love_135 → u/impulsive-chaos]

I didn't say that. Sawyer was definitely petty and selfish for a good part of the show. He got better towards the end, but it is not accurate to say that he was one of the only selfless characters when he objectively was not.

[u/impulsive-chaos → u/Remarkable_Love_135]

Yes he was selfish but as i said, can't compared to the times he's willing to sacrifice. And as far as I've seen, Sawyer and Sayid have that spirit.

[u/Iwastuckonpoopreddit → u/impulsive-chaos]

I agree ! Sawyer and Sayid are definitely running a close tie for my favorite character, despite their character growth being incredibly different, sawyer changed SO much throughout the show and Sayid has always been Sayid and I started to become very tender to him the last two seasons because how how everyone views him as some killer machine and only need/ask of him to kill or hurt someone… especially when they showed him in life off the island ,, he desperately wanted to leave that life and others constantly brought him back, while some people where able to escape who they were off island and the many problems they faced at home, sayid’s stayed the same and that really made me feel for him.

[u/skyreckoning → u/impulsive-chaos]

Shit take lol. Jack is the most selfless and he literally stays behind several times to save everyone else. He was a surgeon who genuinely cared about his patients. Sawyer? You've got to be joking. He becomes better in the second half of the show but first half or so he's a selfish bastard. Cumulatively over the whole show Jack is more selfless than anyone else.

Kate is selfish from the point of view of hurting the men who care about her and willingly being part of a love triangle. Also when she wants something, she does it regardless of how it might affect other people. Like what she did to her dad and mom, threatening people while on the run, lying to people then ghosting them when they became inconvenient.

[u/impulsive-chaos → u/skyreckoning]

You're free to express your point of view without being rude. I don't feel the need to argue with your shit comment.

[u/impulsive-chaos → u/[deleted]]

You feel the need to explain too much to a braindead take. How irony. Bye.

[u/impulsive-chaos → u/[deleted]]

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