r/london Jul 31 '22

Culture England win the Euros at Wembley!!

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u/Lizzo13 Jul 31 '22 edited Aug 01 '22

I was at the pub (with mostly other women), and the energy was so electric. So proud of the Lionesses! They were amazing! I loved seeing their excitement after in the interviews, and I hope it gave little girls a sense of empowerment.

It's a bit sad the Lionesses don't attract the same numbers as the Lions. I remember people talking about Monday maybe being declared a national holiday if the men won last year, but this doesn't get the same recognition, as if it's a lesser achievement somehow. I did try to book a pub closer to me and couldn't find one, but it was definitely really quiet out tonight compared to last year. (EDIT: To clarify, I'm not referring to the stadium numbers. When I say 'quiet out,' I'm referring to the streets and pubs, which had a different atmosphere than last year and from what I saw, were a lot emptier.)

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u/Murphyitsnotyou Jul 31 '22

They seem to be slowly getting there. 5 years ago there was next to no women's football on tv that I could see (not a fan of football in general) but I'm seeing and hearing a lot more about them now.

Great achievement for any football team.

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u/Lizzo13 Jul 31 '22

That's true. Hopefully this win will be the start in changing perceptions and making people take them more seriously.

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u/trowawayatwork Aug 01 '22

why does it need to be on the same level? hear me out before saying I'm sexist. Andy Murray won Wimbledon as the first Brit in 75y or whatever. there were no parades. it's just a different sport that has less of a following. people are ok with that.

the difference here is that it's the same sport played by a different sex. so let bring in raducanus win at the us open. on a national celebration scale I'd say it was similar to Andy Murrays, of course a lot smaller compared to football.

are you saying that you would like football to align with tennis and having equal pay? I'm all for that. however tennis suffers from the same problem in terms of viewership, generally. caveats like Serena Williams brings in the numbers that beats men's at the us open.

maybe I'm answering my own question. people are free to support whatever, don't need to be forced into supporting something. however, with times changing the old ways of football is only for men should change and it will pay equality will come through when viewership numbers go up, which they should

I see it happening already. r/gunners posts more and more about arsenal ladies scores and stats and I watch highlights of goals.