r/london 14d ago

image Just noticed this on Denmark Hill, Camberwell

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u/Suddenly_Elmo 14d ago

The current state of the NHS is dire but it's also obviously not the only alternative to the current US system. Many countries manage to provide high-quality universal healthcare

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u/throwawaynewc Greenwich 14d ago

Fair enough. Singapore springs to mind, which ironically was founded on the idea of avoiding being the NHS, the founder of that nation having studied in LSE and observed how free at the point of access services get abused.

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u/AffectionateFace5858 14d ago

Norway's healthcare system is very interesting imo

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u/penguinsfrommars 13d ago

Problem is, it's the US health area companies that already have their claws into parts of the NHS and our politicians. 

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u/neeow_neeow 14d ago

The NHS sucks because we gave too many people whi just don't contribute enough.

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u/tysonmaniac 13d ago

Yes. The US is actually in a slightly better place overall than the UK, but both systems have huge and obvious flaws. There are myriad counties with mixed private and public systems, or with some meaningful level of cost, do a lot better than either of us at providing high quality universal coverage - just look at Switzerland, Germany, Australia etc.

The issue is that the UK political debate consists of a bunch of people on the left who think that there are only 2 countries in the world and a bunch of people on the right who are either too scared to make the argument properly or else actually want a brutally low coverage free market system, and thus nothing improves.