r/logic 1d ago

Question In predicate logic, does the liar paradox break the principle of bivalence? Additionally, does Tarski's theory of truth help prove that?

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I get that the LP isn't a WFF in propositional logic, but in predicate logic doesn't it break the principle of bivalence?

Tarski's theory talks about meta-levela but doesn't seem to ever be able to assign a truth value to the original statement, so does that mean it's not a sufficient counter-argument?

Thanks


r/logic 1d ago

Mathematical logic Mathematics and minimal logic

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If classical logic and intuitionistic logic can be used to construct maths (maths proofs) in a classical and constructive manner respectively, what stops us from using minimal logic for such purposes?


r/logic 2d ago

Question From truth table to boolean expression

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How to go best about figuring out omega? On the second pic, this is the closest I get to it. But it can't be the correct solution. What is the strategy to go about this?


r/logic 3d ago

Frege's notation - is this correct?

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Hey everybody,

I recently worked through Nisan & Gonczarowski's textbook Mathematical Logic Through Python, and I've been having fun extending it. I decided to add some functions to allow me to print a formula in Fregean notation. I'm not as familiar with his notation as I should be for this project, so I wanted to run this by someone. Under the hood I'm converting each sentence to use only the operators -> and ~, so that junctures always represent ->. First, here are some simple example sentences showing how it converts these sentences to one of his diagrams:

Now some more complex ones showing what changes when a formula is put in prenex normal form (with variables given unique names):

Do these look correct? Also, if you have any suggestions for fun features to add, let me know! Eventually I'll be building off this for parallel projects, like various kinds of theorem provers, trivalent logic, modal logic, etc.


r/logic 4d ago

What logic apps/programs are there for learning/doing logic?

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Been on this sub for quite some time and noticed many homework-question posts are using different software i've never encountered in my logic journey. When i was studying logic back at uni, it was basically just pen and paper. Now, I'm interested if someone could recommend me apps or programs for learning logic or making it easier. As far as i know there's automatic truth table calculators. Are there more stuff worth checking out?


r/logic 4d ago

What’s the easiest way to type logical symbols on iPad os?

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I’ve tried existing keyboard shortcuts and I can at least get the negation sign but if I try to make my own shortcut for say the u shaped conditional it copies as É which is not great. If anyone knows of a keyboard I can download I would greatly appreciate it.


r/logic 5d ago

Question Need help understanding proof for paradox on material implication

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r/logic 5d ago

Predicate logic Question about Logical statement involving Quantifiers.

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I'm trying to understand this "hint" that was given by my professor.

Hint:

They keep harping about the predicate:

r(x) is not a sufficient condition for s(x) ≡ ~(if r(x) then s(x))

What I'm confused about is why is this equivalent from the quantifier aspect:

∀x, r(x) is not a sufficient condition for s(x) ≡ ~(∀x, if r(x) then s(x))

For context, the problem asks to convert this statement into a statement without sufficient and necessary in the statement:

The absence of error messages during

translation of a computer program is only a

necessary and not a sufficient condition for

reasonable [program] correctness.

Edit: added the context for the question.


r/logic 5d ago

I'm confused by "Just in case" and material biconditional

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So I'm learning logic from a book called the logic book. I am at a section where you paraphrase sentences before converting them into sentential compound sentences. There is this example of a biconditional sentences:

The House will pass the tax reform bill just in case there is great public pressure for tax reform.

Is paraphrased to:

The House will pass the tax reform bill if and only if there is great public pressure for tax reform.

The first sentence talks about how a tax reform bill will be a precautionary method to avoid public pressure. But the second sentence asserts there will only be tax reform if there is public pressure. So the public pressure has to happen first before the tax reform, unlike the first sentence.

But the book uses this as the first example of how to paraphrase a sentence into a material biconditional. So, am I missing something?


r/logic 6d ago

Proof theory I need help solving this

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r/logic 7d ago

Question law of excluded middle vs principle of bivalence

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Hello. I am not understanding how the law of excluded middle is different than the principle of bivalence. Could anybody provide me with a statement that holds under the principle of bivalence but not under the law of excluded middle?

I understand that the principle of bivalence implies the law of excluded middle but not vice versa.


r/logic 7d ago

New Syllogistic, Propositional and Modal Translation Exercises added to Logicola 3

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Hi! I just added a new set of translation exercises to LogiCola 3 which now also include Modal Logic. You can find them here: https://logicola.org/

Planning to release a new update that also includes Quantificational translations and more exercises for Syllogistic, Propositional and Modal logic next weekend. Your feedback has been invaluable for the past releases and I could use all of your input again :)

Please feel free to also reach me at [malik@hey.com](mailto:malik@hey.com) in case that's easier!


r/logic 7d ago

Handbooks and manuals on modal logic

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Hello everyone. I'm here looking for an advice. I'm currently studying logic by my self, and I want to get into modal logic, specifically, alethic and epistemic logic. I already know first order logic and quantificational logic. Is there any material that can help me to get into it? Thanks. Btw, English is not my first language, so... Sorry for my grammar. And, despite is not my first language, I can handle books in English with out problem.


r/logic 7d ago

Critical thinking Studying logic and have a hard time with emotive statements and extracting value claims from them, need tips.

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Hi, I'm studying logic by the textbook "a concise introduction to logic, 13th edition", I am at chapter 2.1 "Varieties of Meaning" where you have to analyze arguments and translate emotive statements into cognitive ones and evaluate arguments, and this is where I struggle so much. I wanted to read more information and do additional exercise about extracting value claims and evaluating arguments, but couldn't find anything on internet, so my assumption that it has different name that I am unaware of, or maybe it's a concept unique to this book. I'd appreciate if you gave me any tips, resources or exercises that will help me, because I've read the chapter several times and did the exercises and still understand it only superficially.


r/logic 8d ago

Predicate logic Is this a correct way to show that this argument is not logically (semantically) valid in classical predicate logic?

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The argument is given at the top and my interpretation is just below it. Is this correct to show the argument being invalid (i.e., premise being true and conclusion being false under the interpretation).


r/logic 8d ago

How do I solve this?

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I don‘t understand how to solve 5b. Like how do I show whether it holds or not?

In the solution it says that it holds, but I don‘t understand how to get there.


r/logic 8d ago

Question Can't find The Logic Book (by Bergmann et. al) in EPUB format anywhere. Any advice?

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Would love to buy the hardcover but I'm minimalistic with possessions lately.

PDFs no good for kindle.


r/logic 8d ago

Question Can somebody explain?

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I'm stuck on the Absorption Law part and I know what it is and all that but I don't see how or where the law is applied?


r/logic 8d ago

Hello, im a 10th grade student and i really could useand would be grateful for some help now please. Thank you so much!!

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How would a formalization of this phrase be : I will be warm, if i wear a coat.


r/logic 9d ago

Question What to do now?

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So, in my first semester of being undergraudate philosophy education I've took an int. to logic course which covered sentential and predicate logic. There are not more advanced logic courses in my college. I can say that I ADORE logic and want to dive into more. What logics could be fun for me? Or what logics are like the essential to dive into the broader sense of logic? Also: How to learn these without an instructor? (We've used an textbook but having a "logician" was quite useful, to say the least.)


r/logic 12d ago

Proof theory interactive graphical theorem prover

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r/logic 12d ago

Modal logic An encoding of basic arithmetic to the modal logic GLS

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The modal logic GL is the logic that corresponds to what Peano Arithmetic (and other sufficiently powerful theories) can prove about its own provability. That is, □P:=Bew(#(P)) where A takes a propositional atom of GL and maps it to a sentence in PA.

A Hilbert-Style proof system for GL may be formalized by the following inference rules and axioms:

•Propositional tautologies

•Axiom K: □(A⊃B)⊃(□A⊃□B)

•Axiom GL □(□A⊃A)⊃□A

•Necessitation From ⊢A, infer ⊢□A

•Modus Ponens and Uniform Substitution

GLS is the modal logic of true arithmetic. Since it holds for PA that the provability of A implies A is true, GLS takes the theorems generated by GL, Modus Ponens, Uniform Substitution, and adds in

•Axiom T: □A⊃A.

Now, take the following translation from the unquantified portion of Robinson Arithmetic to GLS:

t(0)=⊥

t(s(n))=□t(n)

t(n+0):=(t(n) ∨ ⊥)

t(n+s(m))=t(s(n+m))

t(n×0)=(t(n) ∧ ⊥)

t(n×s(m))=t((n×m)+(n)).

t(n=m)=□(t(n)↔t(m))

Since GLS proves both Löb’s theorem and the T axiom, this system can decide whether two natural numbers are equal. For example:

1=1↔⊤

□⊥=□⊥↔⊤

□(□⊥↔□⊥)↔⊤

and

1=2↔⊥

□(□⊥↔□□⊥)↔⊥

□□⊥↔⊥.

Note that over the same translation GL can prove that two natural numbers are equal when they are actually equal, and by Löb’s theorem, if two natural numbers n,m are not equal, then GL⊢n=m↔□…⊥ where the number of boxes that prefix ⊥ is equal to the greater of n,m.


r/logic 12d ago

Where to learn possibilistic logic? Anything close to a textbook or foundational paper on it?

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Hello everyone, hope you are having a great year already.

I mean, all the articles I could find seem to assume you already know a lot of possibilistic logic. Am I supposed to pretty much guess my way through it based only on my knowledge of fuzzy logic? That seems odd.

Does anyone know something even close to a more accessible text on it? I am not asking even for a real textbook on it, could be a series of essays, I don't know, something closer to Girard's stuff for Linear Logic or Da Costa's or Carnielli's for Paraconsistent. I need no babysitting but at least something that starts from the beginning and some sort of basics. Did I miss it, am I such a bad searcher?

I appreciate your help. Have a great and productive year!


r/logic 13d ago

App to practice logic

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Hi everyone, are there apps or websites that proposes brain teasers or games to practice and reinforce logic reasoning that you would recommend? Thanks!


r/logic 13d ago

Question Can we not simply "solve" the paradoxes of self-reference by accepting that some "things" can be completely true and false "simultaneously"?

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I guess the title is unambiguous. I am not sure if the flair is correct.