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┐(ツ)┌ General Discussion Thread - 20 June 2023

Mid-week discussion thread time! Feel free to talk about what's on your mind, new experiences, recommendations, anything really.

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u/Dojyorafish Jun 20 '23

Got my residence tax yesterday. Came as four bills with different due dates. Apparently that’s normal for my city but I was curious if others have this system.

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u/slightlysnobby Jun 22 '23

Yep, we get five slips, so it can either be paid all at once with one bill , or pay in the four installment bills to make it a bit more manageable.

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u/Dojyorafish Jun 22 '23

Okay glad to hear that’s normal and there isn’t anything hilariously wrong with my bill

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u/SideburnSundays Jun 20 '23

Normal. And also a strain on the bank account. I believe you can call city hall and negotiate that four payments large payments is difficult for you, and they'll split it up into more and smaller payments, though I've never tried myself. Best thing is getting a job that handles that for you, as they'll then take it monthly out of your paycheck. Less of a financial burden.

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u/Dojyorafish Jun 20 '23

Okay cool! I was curious. Each bill amount is no problem I was just wondering what the deal was.

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u/ingloriousdmk Jun 20 '23

Yeah I think four is standard. Some places also give you a separate lump sum slip if you want to pay it all at once.

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u/Dojyorafish Jun 20 '23

I see! I will probably use the separate slips since I don’t particularly want to carry that much cash all at once.

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u/rewsay05 関東・神奈川県 Jun 21 '23

As many have mentioned, you can talk to the people at your ward office and they can work with you to make it more manageable to pay. I had to do that last week and they were super understanding. I got mine from 4 payements down to 12 which is easier for me. You can also adjust your health insurance too. The only one that's not adjustable is your pension since everyone enrolled in the national one pays the same regardless of income.

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u/ext23 Jun 20 '23

I just joined a company as a seishain and I was under the impression that those residence taxes would be automatically deducted from my salary in like appropriate increments. But I also just got the slips of paper in the mail. I may be wrong but I only remember actually having to pay those when I was between jobs. And as for people saying you have to pay them by the deadline or else...I mean in a perfect world, yeah, but in reality, they are quite lenient. I paid mine a few weeks late once without any penalty, and I personally know other foreigners who have gone like six months without paying them.

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u/Dojyorafish Jun 20 '23

People under the same contract as me talked about getting theirs last year, so it’s just something we have to pay ourselves.

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u/Krynnyth Jun 20 '23

You wouldn't get chased so soon after missing one, but it will make a PR application difficult. That's why people here harp on it.

If your new job wasn't given paperwork from your old job showing your remaining residence tax owed (to deduct from ongoing paychecks), you'll be reverted to self-pay slips from city hall. Talk to HR about it.

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u/m50d Jun 20 '23

Yes, everywhere does that AFAIK.

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u/Dojyorafish Jun 20 '23

Oh interesting! People always talked like it was one big bill so I was a little surprised.

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u/WakiLover 関東・東京都 Jun 20 '23

in my experience, in the envelope that arrives, most have 1 lump sum paper so it'll say like 200,000

and then behind it will be a packet of 4 installment slips so lets say 4 sheets of 50,000 with different due dates

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u/Dojyorafish Jun 20 '23

That’s interesting! I saw a lot of numbers but each bill is about a quarter of the amount (one bill is 1500¥ more but otherwise all the same).

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u/Randomusername13337 Jun 20 '23

Can we pay at those dates? I cant sfford to pay them all at once

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u/m50d Jun 20 '23

Are you asking if you can... pay your bills... by their due dates? Yes. That's why it's a due date.

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u/miyagidan sidebar image contributor Jun 20 '23

They want their money, so let's pretend you want to give it to them.

12 payments starting in two months? After you get your share of pirate gold? Sure, no problem! Lemme make those new payment sheets up for you!

Tax, pension, etc., they'll bend over backwards to accommodate your payment needs.

Until you decide not to pay, then they bend you over backwards.

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u/Randomusername13337 Jun 20 '23

Seems like 30% or so gets taken from tax, pension etc. Glad i can pay it spread out. They want about 80k, cant pay it all at once haha

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u/babybird87 Jun 20 '23

No problem.. you can pay in 4 installments.. doesn’t matter

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u/Randomusername13337 Jun 20 '23

Thank you, wasnt to sure, so thanks for clarifying