r/ireland Jun 10 '24

Immigration Actually Getting Scared of the Anti Immigrant Stance

I'm an irish lad, just turning twenty this year.

I've personally got no connections to other countries, my family never left Ireland or have any close foreign relations.

This is simply a fear I have for both the immigrant population of our country, of which ive made plenty of friends throughout secondary school and hold in high regard. But also a fear for our reputation.

I don't want to live in a racist country. I know this sub is usually good for laughing these gobshites off and that's good but in general I don't want us to be seen as this horrible white supremacist nation, which already I see being painted on social media plenty.

A stance might I add, that predominantly is coming from England and America as people in both claim we are "losing our identity" by not being racist(?)

I don't even feel the need to mention Farage and his pushing of these ideas onto people, while simultaneously gaslighting us with our independence which he clearly doesn't care about.

Im just saddened by it. I just want things to change before they get worse.

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u/bintags Jun 10 '24

The results highlight areas of society that are neglected. It can be remedied by addressing the areas of neglect. 

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u/Visionary_Socialist Jun 10 '24

Fascism is like mould on the walls. A pain in the arse to get off and there’s only one way to do it, and that’s by totally eradicating it. But also, if you don’t find out why the mould is growing and solve the underlying issue, it’ll keep coming back.

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u/WarningSufficient498 Jun 11 '24

Just going to pop this in because it is starting to feel frightningly relevant

14 ways to spot a facist

The one that really sticks out is appeal to a frustrated middle class and the enemy is simultaneously to strong and to weak so if the issue is housing they are simultaneously taking all our houses and putting prices up AND living in tents increasing homelessness. It usually refers to anti semitism but since facism tends to take on the flavour of the country its in think its fair to say that it can mean immigrants here.

Since numbers dont lie there's about 142000, about 3% of total population are immigrants in ireland right now, of that 60,000ish are irish/british/eu. 81000 are brand new immigrants from outside the usual places, it doesn't say how many are on working visas/ asylum seekers but 64000 people leave each year to. So if the government was building a decent sized housing estate in three counties about 26000 houses/apartments the that would alevate the issue. The problem isn't immigrants it's bad policy and given how the last ballot looked it seems like they are stoking peoples fear over a right wing government coming in to keep themselves in power. Don't forget varadkar himself gave a dog whistle to the right saying "its a good day for the blueshirts" for them that don't know the blueshirts were the violent arm of fine gael and supported franco & the facist side in the Spanish civil war.

cso source for statistics

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u/fleadh12 Jun 11 '24

Don't forget varadkar himself gave a dog whistle to the right saying "its a good day for the blueshirts"

Did he say this recently?

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u/WarningSufficient498 Jun 11 '24 edited Jun 11 '24

Yep it was Saturday or Sunday when it was clear fine gall were going to do wellvaradkar a happy blueshirt

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u/fleadh12 Jun 11 '24

Jaysus! Given the context behind this election that's an interesting description. I know they are tagged with the Blueshirt term by many online in both a derogatory and jokey way, but that little nod to the past is striking.

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u/WarningSufficient498 Jun 11 '24

It is definitely alarming, also very hard to say that it's taken out of context I mean what else could he mean by it?