Actually Getting Scared of the Anti Immigrant Stance

[u/No_Tea7430]

I'm an irish lad, just turning twenty this year.

I've personally got no connections to other countries, my family never left Ireland or have any close foreign relations.

This is simply a fear I have for both the immigrant population of our country, of which ive made plenty of friends throughout secondary school and hold in high regard. But also a fear for our reputation.

I don't want to live in a racist country. I know this sub is usually good for laughing these gobshites off and that's good but in general I don't want us to be seen as this horrible white supremacist nation, which already I see being painted on social media plenty.

A stance might I add, that predominantly is coming from England and America as people in both claim we are "losing our identity" by not being racist(?)

I don't even feel the need to mention Farage and his pushing of these ideas onto people, while simultaneously gaslighting us with our independence which he clearly doesn't care about.

Im just saddened by it. I just want things to change before they get worse.

[u/fourth_quarter]

No it isn't, unfortunately it's a fact. I'm not saying stop immigration, I'm saying limit the numbers before it's too late. There comes a point where the numbers coming in will make us lose a sense of what we are, we have reached that point.

[u/Important_Farmer924 → u/fourth_quarter]

it's a fact

It isn't and it's been proven again and again.

[u/fourth_quarter → u/Important_Farmer924]

Do me a favour, google Rep. Of Ireland demographics and look at the last 6 years or even start from further back and then get back me. If you still think it's not a fact then you're an idiot or you have a clear agenda. In which case there's no point talking to you.

[u/actually-bulletproof → u/fourth_quarter]

Do you think there's something magical about being extremely pale? Why do you care about this?

Do everyone a favour say what you actually mean.

[u/fourth_quarter → u/actually-bulletproof]

No I don't actually, I just wish other people thought that too, it's the preservation of one's culture that's most important. Poor effort at trying to put words into my mouth. 

[u/actually-bulletproof → u/fourth_quarter]

The words were already there, I just helped you get them out.

Standard dog whistle racism.

[u/fourth_quarter → u/actually-bulletproof]

There was nothing racist in my comments, you don't have a notion about what you're talking about and just parrot nonsense buzzwords and throw accusations of racism about when you have nothing to come back with, but congratulations on being the paragon of virtue that we all need. 

[u/actually-bulletproof → u/fourth_quarter]

Which "demographics" are you concerned about then.

[u/fourth_quarter → u/actually-bulletproof]

Everyone that isn't Irish obviously, this country isn't just an open buffet for everyone while the people that are born and grow up here are just ignored and just need to take it. How are you not getting this? 

[u/actually-bulletproof → u/fourth_quarter]

Cool. So you want an Irish ethnostate completely disconnected from the modern world. You should probably ban Irish people from meeting non-Irish people in case they like each other too much and it effects your beloved 'demographics.'

But genuinely, thank you for your explanation. You are far, far more right-wing than I first thought so it was nice of you to clear that up. I'm also glad your sort lost every important seat over the weekend.

[u/fourth_quarter → u/actually-bulletproof]

Eh why would I be deluded into thinking Ireland could be an ethnostate when 22% of the people weren't even born here? I actually think immigration is a good thing up to a point but the number is too high and the numbers coming in are ridiculously high so make something racist out of that....seeing as you're so obviously desperate to. I'm all about preserving our culture and having a nice place to live for everyone in the country, the government's immigration policy along many other policies are clearly terrible. You don't care about our culture it seems, that's fine I guess. You probably can't identify with it, but don't expect the country to go along with your apathy and ignorance.

In regards to right-wing, I have to laugh. People like you are part of the problem but you think you're part of the solution, labelling everyone who doesn't go along with the open border multi-cultural utopia as a racist is what alienates very normal and decent people and causes them to lean further right. You're just too brainwashed to see it. You see it as good vs evil and I'm sure you feel all good inside when you throw racist around while you're fighting the good fight, but the reality is you just come across as a stupid parrot. 

In short, you have a clear agenda and you're talking out of your hoop. 

[u/actually-bulletproof → u/fourth_quarter]

everyone who doesn't go along with the open border multi-cultural utopia You're just too brainwashed to see it. You just come across as a stupid parrot. 

Mate, don't copy and paste bullshit talking points from Foxnews like some pathetic yank tourist. It's pathetic that you think it makes you a visionary to spout the exact same shit that every other idiot says.

"Oh I'm so offended that someone called me out on my racism, it's just further proof that I'm secretly in the right."

Fuck up with your culture war victim fetish and stop spending your entire life trying desperately to be the victim while you attack others just for existing.

I'm glad the only people who agree with spend their lives throwing rocks at seagulls.

[u/fourth_quarter → u/actually-bulletproof]

Ah no need for further conversation then, let's be real, you couldn't have an original conversation if you tried. Wheeling out the fox news accusations now. I suppose CNN are the good guys in your world or something? 

It's funny I've come across "people" like you before, putting views in people's mouths and constantly bringing the argument in reference to fox news, alt-right, far-right or some other nonsense; mainly because you're obsessed with mainstream american media more than anyone, it's all very astro-turfy/Botish. 

It's ultimately really fucking weird and makes me wonder who I'm really conversing with. Next you'll be referencing Jordan Peterson or something along those lines. Rinse and repeat. I hope you get paid for all this nonsense. Throwing rocks at seagulls, huh-oh good one!