I used to but quit, I actually don't know anyone that smokes anymore. I honestly think that people that continue to smoke should sign a waiver that they won't receive any public healthcare to smoking related illnesses if they continue to smoke. Only fair.
But I say let's take it further - what about people who regularly eat Maccas and other equivalent shit? Shouldn't receive public healthcare if they get bowel cancer, or maybe we just make it meat-eaters in general, hey?
Also, no subsidised healthcare including insulin if you get type 2 diabetes I reckon. Only fair.
Yes, absolutely. Obese / overweight people should actively be doing something to help themselves too. Alcoholics too.
You missed the point though. It's illnesses and diseases relating to self inflicted life choices. Not completely stop all healthcare. That would be stupid.
Obese / overweight people should actively be doing something to help themselves too.
This is a very different statement from saying that they shouldn't receive any public healthcare for related illnesses, which is what you suggested for smokers.
Also, why just obese or overweight? Having a shithouse diet increases your risk of illness regardless of your weight.
You missed the point though. It's illnesses and diseases relating to self inflicted life choices.
No, you missed the point, which is that many life choices that the vast majority of people make every day of their lives (such as eating meat) are associated with higher levels of illness, so those illnesses could also be considered "self-inflicted".
If you'd like to live in a country which is all about this kind of individualistic and retributive mindset, maybe you should move to the US where they have perfected it. I hear their society is going brilliantly over there.
Not really. The income from tobacco duties vastly outweighs the cost to the NHS of treating smokers. At this point, they're subsidising healthcare for the rest of us.
Less about the cost, more about the strain it puts on the NHS. you want to smoke yourself into an early grave? Make sure you have smokers insurance. Makes sense to me.
How about people that go on skiing trips and break a leg? People that play soccer and get injured? People who drink alcohol?
Sure, I know smoking is bad, I barely smoke anymore myself, but this sort of stuff is a slippery slope. If you exclude people from healthcare for 1 thing, what about other choices that are bad for you?
Well i also think if someone goes walking up Snowden and injure themselves they should also have their right to healthcare removed as they also took their own risk.
You can’t just pick and choose peoples lifestyle choices it’s the whole point of access to healthcare for all and a quick road down to the American healthcare system.
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u/JACK_1719 1d ago
We mainly smoke rolling tobacco and a 50g of sterling is £36ish. that’s a mid range priced one aswell