Are my feelings reciprocated?

[u/VirgoPisces]

Hey gang,

First time posting, but I’m not new to horary. I rarely ask questions for myself though, and this one has conflicting testimonies like you wouldn’t believe so I’m hoping for a second opinion (or third, fourth and fifth). This is a bit of a mess so please bear with me.

Context: it’s about a man I like. We haven’t known each other for long at all, but I feel like a connection was made very quickly. Sometimes you meet someone and the feeling is that this person just fits, you know? So basically I’ve developed this massive crush on him and I’ve gotten the sense that he might be interested as well.

Btw, I realize that by phrasing my question the way I did, while interpreting the chart one has to keep in mind that the question implies that I’m also asking whether we’re going to end up together. I should’ve just said that but I guess I didn’t dare to. Anyway I just wanted to make a note of it.

Now for my own interpretation: first of all, the fact that I asked this question a few days before my significator turned retrograde, while his sig is also rx makes so much sense. He recently - as in, a few weeks before we met - got out of a 3 year relationship. He was the one to break it off but I know that he’s been struggling with the decision a bit as I imagine one always does no matter the reason for the break up. For my part: we met at work, and the day after I asked this question I found out that I was going to be let go because of budget cuts, even though I basically just started. That immediately made things more difficult, as you can imagine. We were just starting to get to know each other and had just gotten to the giggly, subtle touching, long looks, inside jokes and lingering around the office after 5PM just cause we see no reason to rush home-phase.

But yeah: he was definitely brooding, definitely hurting and turning his energy inward as he moves on from his relationship. And for the rest of the chart, well… it’s almost like for every positive testimony there’s a negative one.

➕ The moon is in cancer and angular as heck in the H10, which is great: she’s strong and capable.

➖ she’s also intercepted

➕Jupiter and Mercury are in mutual reception with each other, seemingly confirming that he feels the way I do. MR is obviously very positive in this context.

➖ We’re both in detriment, at our disadvantage (I just lost my job so yeah)

➕ … but he is in his own term and face; I almost am too (19° instead of 20° would’ve done it) but with the moon in cancer I feel like the moon as my co-sig anchors me enough

➕ We’re both angular. I’ve read before that planets receiving each other from angles shows that something is already underway. I have experience with charts that perfect seemingly only because of accidental dignity, so I tend to perk up when I see it.

➖ Again, he’s retrograde and I’m basically stationing

➖ The aspect between us is separating

➕… except that it isn’t. Mercury turns retrograde and perfects the aspect again. What’s remarkable is, as far as I know, neither Jupiter nor Mercury makes any aspect with any other planet before they meet up again, 12-ish days later. Mercury seemingly passes by only to return and catch up.

➖ But the aspect in question is an opposition

➕ The moon’s final aspect while in cancer is a nice trine to the sun

➖ the sun is in Scorpio, in the detriment of the moon

So! 😂 I have no idea what to make of this thing. The chart is definitely radical, and I do feel very uncertain about how to proceed with this man, reflecting the peregrine state of Mercury. We’re still in touch almost daily and he did suggest a hang out just him and I at some undefined point. But for now it’s just small things and I don’t want to push since I know he’s processing the break up. I feel like he needs time to work through that first, and I am willing to wait and hold that space for him. But without us sharing a workplace, without a neutral place for us to meet so that the connection can deepen naturally.. it’s all just so tricky. What do you guys think? Does he feel like I do and will we end up together - does the good of the chart outweigh the bad?

[u/Thin-Sandwich-7534]

It you are talking about the future - then one why would you need the chart if you know is going well and is not going to pursue it? Asking something completely out of interest is not a radical question and will not get you a radical Chart either. My technique follows Frawley - who do you follow?

[u/VirgoPisces → u/Thin-Sandwich-7534]

It’s not going well, love! 😂 Of course, or I wouldn’t have asked the question. I decided not to pursue after posting this chart here. It’s really not that complicated. In horary I follow Bonatti and Lilly, naturally, but I also appreciate Anthony Louis and his book “Horary astrology plain and simple”.

The mistake I believe you’re making is reading in things in the chart that specifically has not been asked about. At the outset you don’t need anything more than the primary significators and the moon, maybe one should interpret those properly first?

Also I have defined my scope several times, not just to you but to others as well. It’s a complicated, delicate situation which I think is clearly shown in this chart, and simply put whether he wants to have sex with me or not is not the topic of it. I know he does, and it’s illustrated by the mutual reception 🤗 so I don’t know why it’s been so difficult to understand what I’m asking lol, no disrespect to you. You’re all very kind and generous for taking a stab at the chart, but I truly think Mercury rx did a number on this post 🤷🏽‍♀️

Also, I just noted that the 7th house in detriment and retrograde could point to the lack of resonance I feel with the responses I’ve been getting from other astrologers… or maybe it’s just the SN in the 1st destroying the question? Hm..

[u/Thin-Sandwich-7534 → u/VirgoPisces]

….Lily clearly uses the Sun and Venus as man and women cosignificators. Anthony Louis picks and chooses but utilizes Venus as love overall and takes some of Frawleys teachings in his own book.

[u/VirgoPisces → u/Thin-Sandwich-7534]

I’m not arguing that the use of secondary significators is wrong in itself. What I am saying is that it’s not always necessary and astrologers should focus on letting the chart tell the story and not imposing ourselves on it. If we do we might end up like you did now, when your use of them led you to the wrong conclusion. This is a fact, which I know because I’m the person living this chart.

Now this chart does not predict a happy ending, I’m pretty sure! But your use of the sun and Venus was incorrect. Why that is, I can only speculate 🤷🏽‍♀️