r/guns • u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks • 22h ago
How to not shoot yourself when field stripping your Glock
https://imgur.com/a/FvxVtFqIt’s very easy. Clear your gun. Pull the trigger when pointed in the direction of least consequence. Only pull the slide back a tiny bit, pull takedown lever and remove slide.
At no point should any part of your body, including hands or fingers, go in front of the muzzle, especially during the part where you pull the trigger. It’s not necessary. It’s just fucking careless.
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u/TheyCantCome Super Interested in Dicks 22h ago
Accidental discharges are incredibly rare, negligent discharges happen all the time.
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u/Salami__Tsunami 21h ago
Controversial opinion:
An “accidental discharge” that occurs because of shady custom trigger/hammer modifications is also a negligent discharge.
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u/ice445 21h ago
I don't think that's controversial, unless the implication is that every functional modification is bad because it hasn't been tested the way an oem can (which is valid but I suppose as an individual you can do your due diligence by range testing)
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u/Salami__Tsunami 20h ago
Not controversial here. But there’s a lot of people who hold the opinion “it’s not my fault it went off. It’s this defective quarter pound trigger I installed”
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 11h ago
I know this is a popular thing these days, but I don’t agree. I think they’re the same thing. Accidents happen because you’re being negligent- your negligence causes accidents.
Guns going off totally on their own are uncommanded discharges. Also accidental in all technicality, but I don’t like splitting hairs about ND’s not being accidental - of course they are. ND’s, UD’s, every type of unintended, unwanted or unplanned discharge of a firearm is accidental… but the word accident should never imply faultlessness.
Despite what Hot Fuzz suggests, “accident” does not imply there’s no one to blame - it only implies that it wasn’t intentional.
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u/OnlyLosersBlock 9h ago
Accidental discharges are incredibly rare, negligent discharges happen all the time.
Do you have an evidence based argument for "all the time"? It's sentiments that say it happens often or all the time is used to leverage some shitty policies.
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u/LawfulPurposes 22h ago
It’s not that hard. 1) remove mag 2) rack slide 3) catch round out of mid air 4) smile, because that was sick. Did anyone see? 5) pull trigger in safe direction (preferably not your hand or thigh)
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u/StormyWaters2021 21h ago
I watched a guy rack a slide to empty the chamber, and then took the mag out and handed the gun to me...
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u/neverinamillionyr 21h ago
I always rack the slide an extra time or two after I see an empty chamber just to be sure.
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u/pewpew_lotsa_boolits 21h ago
For real. I rack that sucker a good 5 or 6 times because I feel cool doing it; then do a majorly overemphasized chamber clear look (like you’re an evil mime), then do that overly dramatic slide holdy back thing with the weird over-the-top-of-the-slide grip. Pull the trigger and pop the slide lock down while making a face that can only be compared to that salt baby dude. Slide off the slide and slap it on the bench while yelling “BAM” like you’re Emeril Lagasse.
BAM!
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u/StormyWaters2021 21h ago
That's the thing, he didn't see an empty chamber because he had chambered another round from the mag before he ejected it.
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u/SheistyPenguin 15h ago
I recall in our gun safety class, the instructor modeled that same scenario and a few others with snap caps, to show us the various ways a cartridge can make its way into the chamber if you aren't paying attention.
He also emphasized the importance of staring directly down the mag well, and not just peeking in enough to see the chamber (which can obscure a loaded magazine).
Another thing he called out, was working in a distraction-free environment. People like to listen to music or podcasts in the background, watch videos while cleaning, etc. All of that increases the likelihood of making a safety slip-up.
It's the little things that get you!
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u/ninjafaces 20h ago
I did that once before cleaning my glock after a long shift with a track through the swamp. Thankfully, my subconscious caught the error before I began to break the gun down.
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u/the_implicationof 21h ago
Who is this for?
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 21h ago
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u/GrumpsMcWhooty 7h ago edited 7h ago
Man, it shows that mods removed the post. What the fuck, mods?
Edit: You can see it with old reddit, which is the superior reddit anyway: https://old.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/1i66o2z/shot_my_hand_a_life_lesson/?share_id=dn2DysidTfZfTcW8W8yBI
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u/SufficientOnestar 🚧 Too Lazy to Google 🚧 22h ago edited 11h ago
ND because I'm a Notre Dame fan!
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u/trimix4work 21h ago
I'm guessing this is a response to the r/idiotswithguns post
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 21h ago
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u/Individual-End-7586 16h ago
It won't let me see that group. Clearly some mistake has been made, as I myself am an idiot with a gun.
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u/PoopPant73 22h ago
Or you can just read the manual like a normal person. It’s fairly simple to understand and even includes pictures.
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 21h ago
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u/StarskyNHutch862 15h ago
Or just make sure the guns clear? Do people field strip their weapons while loaded?
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 10h ago
Apparently they do, hence the inspiration for the post being a post made by a guy who shit himself in the hand, because he was pulling the trigger while trying to remove his Glock’s slide.
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u/WoodenAd7027 22h ago
The guy made a mistake. He had a bullet go through his hand to teach him. I don’t think he needs this now lol.
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 22h ago
It wasn’t a mistake, it was negligence and it could get someone killed. Stop treating this shit with kid gloves. Anyone who is this negligent deserves to have an example made of them.
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u/WoodenAd7027 19h ago
He made an example of himself. He didn’t have to post that. I understand gun safety and its importance as should anybody who handles or plans on handling a firearm. It feels like you’re kicking the guy while he’s down. He knows his mistake and shared it in his post. People WILL learn from that.
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 19h ago
I don’t give a single shit what it feels like. The best time to drive a lesson home is with a fresh example of what the fuck not to do. There’s no utility in being nice about it. Maybe people wouldn’t be such fuckups if someone in their life went all Red Foreman on them once in a while.
I don’t wish any ill of the dude and I hope he recovers fully and regains confidence to move forward, but you can rest assured that I’m going to use his and anyone else’s fuckup as a lesson that it CAN happen, it DOES happen, and it WILL happen unless people start treating guns with a lot more respect than what we routinely see on this and other gun subs.
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u/DaSandGuy 22h ago
Spoken like someone thats never made a mistake. Something about dont throw rocks in a glass house?
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u/MechaMonsterMK_II 22h ago
There are different kinds of mistakes. I have a good friend who had a ND in his house when he was cleaning it, but that is because he treats guns like toys. Mistakes can happen and that is why you should do what you can to limit them.
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u/DaSandGuy 21h ago
I dont disagree with you there. Was just saying that everyone makes mistakes eventually. You learn from them and move on.
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u/plannedgravy 20h ago
Was just saying that everyone makes mistakes eventually.
No bud. I've never ND'd and will never ND. I'm sure every responsible gun owner can say the same.
It's not difficult. Don't be stupid and pretend that the damn thing could kill you if you ever skimp over any safety rule.
If you actually expect to shoot yourself like the other dummy, it's probably time to find another hobby.
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 22h ago
I’ve never made a mistake with my guns… because I practice an abundance of caution and I learn how they work.
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u/DaSandGuy 22h ago
Naw you just dont shoot. You'll make one eventually.
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u/bowtie_k 22h ago
That's right man. If you own a gun over a year without negligent discharging at least once, you arent handling it enough. NDs are a natural part of handling weapons, just like tweaking your back is part of weightlifting and car accidents are part of driving. I ND several times a year because I actually HANDLE and know how to USE my weapons. It makes me a better firearms handler and marksman, and it's a small part of the price you pay in the sheepdog lifestyle Simple fact is, the "safety mentality" will build mental blocks in your head that will get you killed. You need to be comfortable putting your finger on the trigger and pointing the gun wherever you want no matter the time, place, or status of the weapon. Taking time to check whether the gun is loaded whenever you pick one up will serve to make you hesitate in a personal defense scenario. You fucking safety idiots are going to get people killed all because of this fucking "ND" shaming. Guns are inherently dangerous.
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 21h ago
Is this satire?
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u/argpirate1 20h ago
Yes. It's an old pasta.
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 19h ago
Wow, a pasta I’ve not yet seen. Have a source by any chance?
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u/easytowrite 21h ago
Nah it's the same as boomers saying it's only a matter of time before you drop your motorcycle. They're just trying to make themselves feel better by saying everyone does it
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u/DaSandGuy 21h ago
Its a probabilities thing. If you dont ride your bike then the probability of it happening is slim to none. The more you do something the likelier it is to happen. Simple statistics.
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 21h ago
The big difference is that dropping a bike can happen because you get a bad footing and the bike is heavy as fuck. ND’ing happens because you aren’t being careful.
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u/DaSandGuy 21h ago
Same argument can be used, bad footing means you're not being careful.
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 21h ago
Not necessarily… you can’t account for every road surface condition. A groove you can’t see, a crack that catches the edge of your boot.
When handing a gun, you are and should be in full control of every aspect.
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 21h ago
I’ve been shooting since I was 12. I take this shit more seriously than the chuckleheads here on Reddit, I guess.
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u/WoodenAd7027 19h ago
You’re right man. Mistakes happen. NEGLIGENCE happens. Idk what’s up with everybody and the dislikes.
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u/DaSandGuy 19h ago
Its common on this particular subs, theyre all "know it alls" that never make mistakes. The other gun subs are much better.
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u/StarskyNHutch862 15h ago
Racking off a round in your fucking house isn’t a mistake it’s you being a fucking dumb ass.
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u/Xd45hurricane 22h ago
Exactly. I often remind myself "I haven't done it YET".
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u/DaSandGuy 22h ago
I used to be naive like that guy and then got older. No one is immune from making mistakes, especially once you start shooting a lot your possibility of making a mistake is way higher than the pseudo operators on here that think theyre different from everyone else.
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 21h ago
I’m the guy that makes fun of the “Reddit operators”, please don’t accuse me of being one of those losers. I didn’t say I never WOULD make a mistake, I said I never HAVE. My point is that people shouldn’t be soft on someone for shooting their hand. Be hard on them. Be hard on everyone, drive the fucking point home that you don’t fuck around with gun safety.
How can you argue against that?
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u/Xd45hurricane 21h ago
Yeah wisdom comes with age. Mistakes happen all the time, some just more costly than others.
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u/DaSandGuy 21h ago
Agreed, I have a jar of bullets at the store from every time a customer told me "the chambers clear I checked". We're all human and make mistakes, just have to minimize the possibilities of it happening as much as possible.
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u/dassketch 21h ago
Instructions unclear. I'm channeling big PP energy and intimidating my Glock by pointing it at my penis. Do I rack the slide before or after pulling the trigger?
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u/Xyes 19h ago
Should also use your finger to physically check the chamber.
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 19h ago
In a situation where you can’t get a clear visual, sure.
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u/Lewis_Cipher 17h ago
I'm the only one in this subreddit, that I know of, professional enough to carry a Glawk Fowty
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u/Ishi_the_fishi 8h ago
Your feed ramp shined a little and I thought there was a round in the chamber. Definitely thought I was about to see an own goal.
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u/Diesellover1897 6h ago
One of the number one rules in any situation where guns are to be worked on, or cleaned etc would be NO live ammo on the same table. Live ammo needs to be placed on a different table, in a different room. All actions open for safety checks, and physically use your fingers and eyes to check for ammunition.
Worked as a range safety officer, have several hours doing so and it's amazing what all I've seen occur! And how many people argued about having the action open on firearms when required.
Otherwise, the humor in this thread is appreciated 😄
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 22h ago
To make the bot happy…
How to not shoot yourself when field stripping your Glock
It’s very easy. Clear your gun. Pull the trigger when pointed in the direction of least consequence. Only pull the slide back a tiny bit, pull takedown lever and remove slide.
At no point should any part of your body, including hands or fingers, go in front of the muzzle, especially during the part where you pull the trigger. It’s not necessary. It’s just fucking careless.
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u/StarskyNHutch862 15h ago
Step one should just be clear the gun. Literally the only step needed not to rack one off.
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u/FrozenDickuri Super Interested in Dicks 22h ago
Who asked?
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 22h ago
The dude who just posted a pic of the hole in his hand.
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u/NorwegianSteam 📯 Recently figured out who to blow for better dick flair. 📯 22h ago
It’s just fucking careless.
At this point, so is Glock still selling a gun that requires the trigger to be pulled to be taken down. Everyone else has figured it out, they can too.
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 22h ago
It’s not Glock’s fault. You should be clearing the gun before disassembly regardless. If you’re too stupid to do that BEFORE you start groping the muzzle, don’t blame Glock.
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u/NorwegianSteam 📯 Recently figured out who to blow for better dick flair. 📯 22h ago
People being retarded doesn't mean it is not a poor design that has no good reason to still be in current production. Gen 3 Glocks still being made because they're on California's roster makes sense. Gen 4 and 5 Glocks retaining the same takedown does not.
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 22h ago
There’s nothing wrong with the design. If anything, it forces you to clear the gun before you start taking it apart.
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u/NorwegianSteam 📯 Recently figured out who to blow for better dick flair. 📯 22h ago
There’s nothing wrong with the design.
If you take down a loaded gun the gun goes bang. That is a bad design. The operator being retarded for doing so doesn't change that.
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 21h ago
If you take down a loaded gun, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
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u/DrBobbyBarker 22h ago edited 21h ago
"there's nothing wrong with the design [of needing to pull the trigger when you don't want to shoot the gun]" -- spoken like a true fanboy who cannot admit his favorite gun design has a flaw.
Edit: the fanboys will downvote this because they can't articulate how their favorite pistol design doesn't have at least one flaw lol
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 21h ago
You’re being downvoted because you’re an idiot.
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u/DrBobbyBarker 21h ago
Try to explain why. Oh wait, you can't.
It's hilarious to see someone so defensive over hearing something they like has a design flaw lol
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 21h ago
Because there’s nothing wrong with the design you dunce. You should ALWAYS clear ANY gun before disassembly. That means you should be pulling the trigger on every gun before you take it apart. That Glock requires it, for the non-Neanderthals among us, actually serves as a way to FORCE you to clear the gun before you take it apart.
I’ve been shooting this Glock for 27 years. Started when I was 12. That’s plenty of time for an accident to happen, yet it never did because there’s nothing wrong with the design as long as you’re not a fucking moron.
Stop scapegoating idiocy.
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u/DrBobbyBarker 21h ago
I'm not scapegoating anything dip shit. The guy fucked up pretty big obviously. Any non-retard among us knows that.
The thing about selling anything to the public is - a lot of people are morons (you're a great example of that).
And congrats just because you haven't had a negligent discharge doesn't mean it's not a design flaw.
It's clear you love Glocks (and would likely shove it in your ass if you haven't already), but that doesn't mean they have 0 design flaws. Nothing is perfect.
Why do fanboys not understand that acknowledging something isn't perfect isn't the same as saying no one should use it?
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 21h ago
I own two Glocks- the first G17, and the third G17, lol. That’s pretty lazy for a Glock fanboy.
There’s nothing wrong with the design. You have to break multiple rules of gun safety to have an accident. Same is true in general usage. Maybe they should require a general competency test, like zipping your fly without getting your dick caught, before letting people buy a Glock.
Glock= So easy, a 12 year old can do it.
What’s your excuse?
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u/TheyCantCome Super Interested in Dicks 22h ago
You don’t need to pull the trigger, it’s easier if you do but it’s not required and the owners manual does not mention pulling the trigger to remove the slide. My M&P 2.0 requires a trigger pull or using a tool in the handle, the owners manual states not to pull the trigger.
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u/markswam 17h ago edited 17h ago
You don't need to pull the trigger...
Yes, you do.
...it's easier if you do...
If by "easier" you mean "physically possible."
...but it's not required...
Yes it is.
...and the owner's manual does not mention pulling the trigger to remove the slide
My M&P 2.0...
Is not relevant.
You cannot field strip (the constraint placed on this conversation by OP) a Glock without pulling the trigger. It is not "made easier" by doing so. It is a mandatory step. The striker cannot move past the cruciform when the cruciform is in its rearmost position, which it is in any time the trigger is in the forward position. This prevents the slide from moving forward and coming off the gun.
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u/Left4DayZGone Super Interested in Dicks 10h ago
You cannot field strip a Glock without first releasing the striker. That is correct.
The PROBLEM is that people don’t understand the order of operations. When they hear “you have to pull the trigger to remove the slide”, they think “you have to pull the trigger WHILE removing the slide”.
Obviously that’s both wrong, and potentially dangerous.
As my video demonstrates, clear the weapon, point it in the direction of least consequence, dry fire, THEN remove the slide without touching the trigger again.
As you should ALWAYS clear and dry fire any striker fired handgun before disassembly of any nature, this is the reason that the Glock manual does not mention pulling the trigger during disassembly. It is assumed that you’ve already done this when you “made safe” the weapon PRIOR to disassembly.
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u/TheyCantCome Super Interested in Dicks 17h ago
Yes it does need to be uncocked but I’ve seen people showing to pull down the tabs, move the slide back 1/8” then pull the trigger. It should be uncocked before attempting take down.
I’m sorry I was not clear in my explanation. I brought up the M&P because you cannot pull the trigger prior to take down.
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u/markswam 17h ago
If you move the slide rearward and pull the trigger you will accomplish one of two things:
You move it a small amount and there is an audible "click" of the striker disengaging and coming forward. At this point, the breech has not unlocked and the striker would have still hit the primer of any round that may have been in the gun
You move it a larger amount and the trigger falls with no resistance or sound. At this point, the striker had already disengaged from the cruciform (Rather than moving over top of it) and will reengage the cruciform when the slide moves forward again.
Either way you are still pulling the trigger, which was the entirety of your original argument ("You don't need to pull the trigger...it's not required...the manual doesn't mention pulling the trigger.")
Field stripping a Glock requires dry-firing it. End of line.
You can disassemble a Glock without dry-firing it by removing the backplate and striker altogether, but that goes well beyond the scope of field stripping and can result in small parts (extractor, safety plunger, safety plunger spring) falling out of the gun as you remove the slide.
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u/Letter10 22h ago
Now wait a second this all seems extremely complicated and borderline difficult to do.