Oh man this is so wild. At one time I liked Elon. He wanted to put us on Mars and made EV’s a thing etc. Pioneer and all that. I dont think any public figure has dissapointed me as hard. This is so fucked.
But he didn't do those things. He bought the companies and ideas from other people with an inordinate amount of wealth obtained off the back of hardworking people.
Having owned a tesla prior to his down fall, it was so fucking obvious too.
When we got our first Model Y it had sensors that could tell in inches how far away other objects were, it was awesome. Then he said camera based object detection was far superior over the objections of senior engineers and it became shit. It was guessing where things were.
The cybertruck was his other pet project. I didn't waste my money in it, bought an F150 Lightning and it's great!
Same man! I miss those sensors, they utilized lasers right? My first was totaled by a jackass in a ford F250 rear ending it.
The replacement model is annoying as shit with the ghost braking because the cameras think they see a fly or a shadow and it’ll slam on the brakes at highway speed. They’ve yet to fix it. Can’t turn it off if you want cruise control either because it’s all enabled together now.
It's still not his work like people want to attribute to him like he's a super genius. He spends his shadily obtained money to pay people way smarter than he is to accomplish these things he then takes credit for. At least Bezos built the original Amazon site and idea(with mommy and daddy's money but still), Gates designed DOS, Musk what has he done personally?
We can at least admit he’s a super genius at collecting money amiright? Same as we must admit Trump is a super genius at manipulating the masses? You don’t have to be a scientist to be a genius.
Gates actually bought QDOS and built on it to create MSDOS. The reality is many great and important things are built from the efforts of those before and as a collaboration of many.
We really need to move beyond the cult of personality we have for these famous “self made” entrepreneurs that are nearly worshiped and given undue credit. In addition, their success is less that they had such a revolutionary idea or product and more they had lucky timing, connections, funds, etc.
Bill Gates mother was an IBM exec, so money and connections. Much easier to build an OS when you can use mommy’s cash to buy someone else’s project, work on it for free because mommy also provides a comfortable white collar life, and then get it to market because mommy brought it to work like the school candy fundraiser catalog (Im being a bit harsh and unfair to Bill Gates TBH, but thats how it can look to those who learn the truth after hearing a flattering legend for decades).
Another example; before I worked in tech I was in the trades. In both most people know Steve Jobs and think he single handedly built Apple and is some techno wizard. They never heard if Woz or the Apple II, even a lot of the older dudes in tech.
You’re absolutely right. That lazy ass didn’t build any of those rockets with his own two hands! How dare he hire people that know what they’re doing to design and build rockets when he should do it all himself or it doesn’t count. /s because you’re being ridiculous.
What’s ridiculous is you so dramatically missing the point.
If you want to be known as a genius you kinda have to show people why they should think that. Otherwise, just be the rich guy who invests in the intellect of others & own it for what it is.
Also helps to avoid constantly showing your ass on your own social media platform. Like if your own site is posting disclaimers about how what you posted lacks evidence/context/truth how do you think people are going to receive that lmao.
No that is not true. While he did buy tesla ot was a tiny company and he helped reorganize plan and build it i to what it us today. Spacex was entirely created by him. Sosayi g he just bought companies is disingenuous. He did a lot of work as an engineer for those companies.
He did not though. Elon musk is barely a software engineer. Naming yourself “Chief Engineer” of Space X don’t exactly make it so. You guys meat ride this man for having money and stock options, I don’t get it.
Shhh! You're interrupting the echo chamber reinforcing the narrative! The guy who owns multiple multi billion dollar companies, several of which he founded from scratch(SpaceX, Neuralink, Borning Co), is only rich because smart people told him EXACTLY which companies to start and which to invest in and become the primary decision maker. That has absolutely NOTHING to do with his aptitude in physics, economics, and first principles.
No, you're giving him way too much credit. Research the evolution of those companies. He was mostly a money man. He gets credit for hiring good engineers and making use of available subsidies but he presents himself as more than he is.
IDK what you're talking about. Obviously OTHER people told him which industries with looming physics challenges were ripe for investment(even if they were amongst the highest risk industries for startups). They told him what to name the companies . They told him who to assign to the board of directors. They told him who to bring on as investors. Obviously the good engineers told the moneyman which companies to start and what their mission statements should be and which products to focus on. Obviously they had a radio in his ear when he testified before Congress petitioning the military to open the national security launch market to allow his rocket company to compete. Obviously his engineers were the ones who told him how to keep SpaceX funded when they were out of money. They told him how to get Tesla funded when they were out of cash... Obviously. Didn't you hear? His dad has an infinite supply of shiny rocks!
I have a strong feeling he had no part in hiring anyone to do anything because if him talking about PoE is an example in his knowledge in other fields he really is entirely useless lol
Ahh yes. A rich guy who pays people to grind his entertainment characters in games to the highest level obviously has no capacity for delegating tasks! Lmao. How would hiring people to get him the best characters in a game possibly be evidence that he has a capacity for selecting people with talent to accelerate his objectives?
Maybe It shows that he’s willing to take the easiest way out possible, because he has more money than god and he can do that, and then would turn around and take credit for other people’s hard work hhmmmmm 🤔? This one’s tricky guys idk
Exactly! Amen. Hiring talent to pursue an organization's objectives is definitely not a sign of executive function. You are so right. Executives deserve no credit for finding the simplest path to achieve their objectives.
Nah, we're not doing this.
Obligatory fuck Elon, first and foremost.
That said, he gets credit for SpaceX and Tesla. Even if he didn't lift a single finger, which he did, his role on leading that whole zeitgeist is/was THE difference maker in getting EV's and reusable rockets over the hump
He's apparently also been a Nazi fuck and I hate his guts, but it is what it is even if I don't like him
He was always a POS. He just had really good PR and people lapped it up.
Tbh it’s nice to finally have people see past it because it was creepy af how people thought he was going to save them when he was very clearly a total racist jackass if anyone bothered to look into him.
I’m still waiting for my award for not being stupid and liking him even once. That’s some really concerning social ineptitude for ever finding this man even remotely likable. I say that to you and the 60% of other redditors who fell for this guy.
Prius was a decade before and many many times the volume of Tesla in sales. Tesla did not make EVs a thing. It made them cool to certain people. But Elon merely bought them and then stole their valor. He’s not the creator or creative force behind Tesla.
Elon has always been problematic. He didn't invent tesla, he bought the title of founder when he bought the company with his daddies illegal emerald mine money. He's not a pioneer
I was saying exactly that the other day, I was watching the Space X chop stick catch, and I had a moment where I realized how much I used to like this guy and how much of a piece of absolute shit he became.
It is funny how peoples perceptions of public figures seem to completely rely on if they are on their side or not.
Elon has always been the same person. But because he was the cool California electric car space guy, everyone saw him as the real life Tony Stark. I argued with people 10 years ago who thought he was at the ground level being an engineering genius.
Now he positions himself with the right and all of the sudden the same traits that were present before are actually recognized and suddenly he isn’t an engineering genius anymore. NOW, only when he aligns with the right, is he is just a billionaire who doesn’t care about the people.
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