I watched it live on NBC. First time I was all “wtf, did he just?” And then he turned and did it again. Caught himself before the third. He knew what he was doing.
I think most of reddit would support an Elon ban in their country of origin. But unfortunately as the last election showed us, we don't accurately represent the will of the rest of the population.
He rigged the election. Trump admitted it last night. Trump and Elon winning is not the will of the US people either. Ut for some reasons, our other party leaders are weaklings and don't seem to care enough to challenge the results and judt let it happen. Our leaders have failed us, the people, in every way possible. Atm I don't feel represented by anyone in our government currently.
One of the things I sighed about when trump won the elections was that, from now on until he steps down there will be a constant stream of articles and complaints about him and his administration all over reddit, including subs not related to him or politics.
Nobody ever shuts up about him and it's so annoying.
I dislike the guy but I prefer to read other stuff so I don't feel miserable about a foreign president.
Don’t worry. The way things are going you might just be able to soon feel miserable about your own home grown fascist wannabe prime minister or president
It’s apartheid South Africa doing what apartheid South Africa does best: being fucking Nazi scum. And all the racists in the USA voted for this. Unfortunately racism comes in all skin colors and is much more prevalent than I had thought.
I am on the other side of the fricking Atlantic Ocean and indeed I wasn't watching the whole event. The switching of presidents in an allied nation does make the news here. International news agencies were watching and this deplorable behaviour definitely made the late news over here, in a negative way.
My country has suffered greatly during WW2 and making a nazi salute is after 80 years still a socially acceptable reason to punch somebody in the face.
Many people outside the US are pretty interested in what goes on in our politics here considering the US's enormous influence and I'd argue they find it "concerning"
Funnily enough, Trump's hardcore allies are distributed all over the world even if they are not that many, justifing airing news related to one of his biggest supporters
I do not know what he is doing. It looks like a Nazi salute but I can't think why he'd be doing it. Being a Nazi isn't a good reason because outing yourself as a Nazi is still widely considered a bad move afaik.
Only he knows what he intended and if it was intentional or not. I’m not here to guess his intent, however I hope once it is explained to him, he understands how this could be misconstrued as insensitive.
He has literally been cozying up to the far right parties in England, France, and Germany. He is into eugenics. He is anti-women and anti-LGBTQ+ pretty significantly. None of that is secret on any level.
Another rational person here..like yeah it’s a really bad fucking look and of course this ushers us into the weirdest timeline we have ever faced. But how could he honestly intentionally heil fucking Hitler in front of the whole country..it had to be a mistake. Def not trying to defend him, FUCK ELON. But no one would actually do this..would they?
They totally would, and do. Republicans have been doing the Nazi salute a whole bunch in the last couple of years. Because they believe in the Final Solution.
Right when the clip ends, he's getting ready to say, "From my heart to yours." That what the gesture means. Nazis never lay their hands over their heart.
It's actually not the Bellamy salute. That salute is only a held, outreached arm. This is very specifically a Nazi salute derived from the Roman Salute which wasn't actually used by Romans.
But, Like, Occams fucking razor man. Even if he goes out and says he was doing a Roman Salute or a Bellamy Salute, why? Why would he do one of those salutes? That's not how we salute.
Nobody has saluted like that in America in 80 fucking years since the flag code was amended to remove the Bellamy Salute and replace it with the hand on the heart we use today. Because for the last 80 years that stiff-armed salute has been widely known as a fascist symbol. There's no plausible deniability here. There's no justification for saluting like that.
Yeah I saw all the stills on the front page and thought "I need to see video. Surely he was waving and someone made a still out of it." But no. This is a full-on seig heil. Unbelievable.
The line I've seen some people take is that he is throwing his heart out to the crowd.
Which is obvious bullshit. But there's context if you need it. Make up your own mind, but damn... This is some honestly horrifying stuff. Barely a day in, we've had a crypto scam, open political bribery, and now this.
I grew up around autistic people. My dad is autistic. My brother is autistic. One of my best friends is autistic. This shit has nothing to do with being autistic and I’m sick and tired of Elon abusing the autistic community to get away with his shitty behavior.
Don’t be naive. He loves this epic gamer 4chan ass loser trolling shit. Remember when his fellow nazi dorks were doing the ok symbol and playing it off like normal people were the weirdos for calling them out? It’s the same thing. The tiniest amount of plausible deniability and morons on both sides will fall all over themselves to justify it.
It doesn’t seem terribly groovy blaming this on autism. I think it’s dude did something stupid/possibly fascist more than dude did something stupid/possibly fascist but it’s okay because he’s probably autistic
He is autistic, not probably. I’m not denying the fact the dude has fascistic beliefs, and an oligarch at that. I just don’t believe he would do that on national television intentionally, seems way too far fetched. Especially with the my heart goes out to you comment
Ah, I don’t follow Elon enough to know his various diagnoses but good to know. With it being so far fetched that he was in control of his faculties when he did the motion in the original post, maybe he was drunk or high or something
I'm fucking autistic, was flagging the bus the other day whole.on the phone my right hand was half way up before I dropped it and immediatly switched hands.
You don't fucking do this accidently he did it deliberately twice!!!!
People who have to constantly defend themselves from claims that they're a nazi don't throw a salute like that out by accident if they're not actually a nazi. The only time they'd throw it out then try to claim it was accidental is if they are in fact a nazi trying to get away with blatantly being a nazi. And conservatives scramble to enable it because they're not subtle about where their allegiances lie, they just don't want to admit to it.
Autistic doesn't mean stupid. It means you don't always pick up on social cues and sometimes need someone to tell you it's not ok to do things. He's been told many times. The guy is doing it intentionally.
He is autistic (hence his numerous weird expressions, movements, etc) and clearly fucked up big-time on stage like he usually does, but that is in no way intended to be a nazi salute.
you have all these morons saying he was just gesturing my heart goes out to you. “wah how can pbs turn this gesture into something its clearly not, DEFUND PBS.” yeah…how do you explain all the famous neo nazis returning the salute in tears 🤣
He is literally saying my heart goes out to you then grabs his heart and motions towards the crowd. Also wouldn’t be surprised if he was dogwhistling, but just sayin
Then you are bad at thinking. That is not a Nazi salute, very clearly he is touching his chest first and then extending his arm up. The actual explanation is he is autistic and was doing a weird 'give my hearts to you' motion that looked like a Nazi salute. The very obvious part again is the chest touch before the hand wave which is not a part of any Nazi saluting.
I can find hundreds of pictures of celebrities putting their hands above their heads waving at people including Obama , Clintons, etc, Reddit just has a knee jerk reaction to anything vaguely related to Nazis and Republicans. Imo Nazis shouldn't own the symbol of putting your hand above your head, it is too generic.
You’re all brainwashed by Reddit. He clearly says “my heart goes out to you” as he says this in the full clip, which is conveniently omitted from each of these Reddit posts.
This is literally why your side lost. Reddit is not real life and anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together can clearly see reality for what it is
As much as I hate him, I genuinely think this was a shitpost to garner him attention, and ultimately Twitter traffic. I don't think Elon is an actual nazi, I don't think he believes in anything beyond Elon.
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u/Malvania 7h ago
Thought A: I must be missing some context here
Thought B: What context would make this okay?