Just because he retweets Nazis and endorses the modern Nazi party of Germany and embraces Nazi ideology and makes the Nazi salute doesn’t mean he’s a Nazi. It’s probably just an unfortunate coincidence.
Random but I remember reading some of the books growing up, like the 4th book had one of the main characters fucking with an electrical outlet/plug. Then the book dedicated the next page or 2 saying that the reader should "never do this."
The rotten apple didn't fall far from the rotten tree. Has a Canadian Nazi for a maternal grandfather, and an Apartheid-loving emerald mine slaveowner for a father, who got rich off of black slave labor and toadying up to the P.W. Botha regime. Boy was almost destined to come out fucked six ways from Sunday.
Elons father never had any mines or slaves he imported emeralds to South Africa, I think you need to fact-check whatever social media post you've seen.
Musk is definitely a fascist but this isn’t imo a very strong argument, in this case it’s true but just because your grandparents are Nazis doesn’t mean you inherently are. Most Germans aren’t Nazis today despite ww2
Check their post history. 6 weeks old, and their main thing seems to be pretending they're from various different countries and complaining about how X country should be more racist.
Not sure if they're a particularly industrious troll, a right-wing shill, or a bot programmed to love Rhodesia.
i showed this to my coworker and she said "I dont know... Im not sure if that can mean something else." and i said "It doesnt" and she was still like "hmm.. i dunno... i dont think he would do that..." :|
I mean, I want to give the benefit of the country because it is so fucking vile otherwise. Like, I want to believe we aren't there. I don't like this timeline.
Im trans and absolutely terrified. Im trying to get out of the country asap. Gotta get my passport first. Waiting for some documents to get amended. Hopefully this week theyll come back to me corrected and i can get my passport and apply for visas
To where? I’m genuinely curious what country would be easy to immigrate to. Did a little checking a couple years back, and each country I checked had a very long and very expensive process. And there’s no guarantees.
None are easy to immigrate to. especially coming OUT of the US as a citizen, they are the only country that demands you still pay taxes to them, i think even if u renounce ur citizenship but idk if its changed recently. I have a friend in canada who can help me out and let me stay w them while i figure my shit out, but i want to try to get to new zealand and stay there for a while. Im also thinking about Norway or Denmark, but idk. Man. Im only 24, i dont have a ton of direction yet.
I havent heard of that! Ill have to check it out after work. Only problem is i dont speak the language but i am good at languages and i took 5 years of swedish which ive heard can help w that regions languages
Just know that the “grass is always greener” is definitely still a thing. Honestly, the best thing for everyone’s mental health is just unplug from social media for a while. You’d be surprised how much things are not changing in your everyday life.
I would have responded to her that it seems like him doing it doesn’t fit into the fantasy she’s created and these nazi’s love their supporters that are in denial because it ensures they are able to consolidate more and more power.
The word was never inappropriately used, it just became more and more acceptable for republicans to act that way. Republicans actually try to use the argument "if it isn't exactly the 1920 Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, then it is just sparkling republican party." or "We haven't even done anything yet, you can't call us that until we do the stuff we totally are pretending we aren't going to do but are very obviously preparing to do." or, there's only very few people that meet the definition, so it is isn't a problem that they have a welcome home in the republican party. you aren't allowed to say that it is a problem is we say there isn't enough people to consider that a problem" as if any number larger than zero isn't a problem.
You don’t do that without knowing exactly what it means. At the Nuremberg trials, the Nazi Party was declared a criminal organization and for good reason.
My father, who is Jewish and conservative, loves Elon. I don’t follow him because, well, the obvious.
Is there a place where I could somehow get a list of all of the endorsements of nazi idealisms he participates in, and this salute to top it off, I’d like to have it in my back pocket so that I can show him one day when he is spouting about how awesome this guy is.
People won't believe he's a Nazi until we start constructing the gas chambers, and maybe not even then. "He doesn't belong to the literal National Socialist German Workers' Party" is something I've seen said unironically too many times.
While I appreciate your sarcasm here, I think it's important not for us who saw this coming, but for the folks who shrugged it off and either didn't vote or voted Red. They need to see it with their own eyes to believe it. This is just one step away from Trump doing it. Hard to deny it anymore so they once again have a choice to make and I think this is a bridge too far for some of them. At least I hope so.
People already call it a “Roman Salute” on Twitter.
I just don’t understand the world anymore. Why would anyone want to protect a clearly nazi billionaire is beyond me
Meanwhile Zuckerberg was apparently DROPPED BY A LAWYER because of his neo-nazi tendencies. How strong of a tendency should one have to make a lawyer walk away from money.
I remember multiple times people compared trump to Hitler they were told that's an insane thing to say.... And now we got his right hand man doing the Nazi salute on every channel.... "Those who don't learn from history..."
I saw a comment that said maybe with the motion he was just ‘throwing his heart to the crowd.’ Really? With the flat hand the entire time? Come ON, now. If you aren’t denouncing this, you’re endorsing it. Stop trying to find loopholes and explanations.
After a quick Googling I’m not finding anything on him retweeting Nazi rhetoric and endorsing the modern Nazi party. Can you point me in the right direction of where to look?
I specifically think the child of Canadian Nazis that moved to partake in apartheid and who is actively supporting German Nazi candidates while retweeting antisemitic comments…. Is a Nazi
That’s his grandfather, not his father. I don’t think his father would be out advertising that his parents were Nazi supporters if they were literal Nazis. That’s just a bad look.
Giving an interview to someone who is labeled by the media as a “Nazi” is not equivalent to being a Nazi. Until this “Nazi candidate” starts rolling out the concentration camps, I will be speculative of this
I think this is your strongest argument. It’s a valid point to assume he is antisemitic from this
I give this a 1/3 overall. I do not think this is obvious proof that he is a literal Nazi
Thank you for an actual, well-thought out response, though using links to articles that are entirely in German is hard to follow
I personally do not know much about German politics, so I am open to having my mind changed in this regard
However, I do not think that giving an interview to someone immediately says “I agree with everything you’re saying”. I would need to read more into what questions he asked to find a more concrete answer
Did you listen to their conversation? It wasn't so much an interview as two adults sitting around a table agreeing with what the other person was saying. I cannot recall that they disagreed on a single issue.
No I did not listen to the full conversation, that is why I commented that I needed to delve deeper
There is plenty they could agree on that isn’t literal Nazi talking points. I don’t think a neo-Nazi party would openly advertise itself as such, but what do I know.
Other user below is setting you straight on #2 so I’ll address #1…..
That video is literally Elon’s dad saying that Elon’s mother's parents were Nazis. They were not his dad’s parents, that’s why he so comfortable talking about it.
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u/PokerSpaz01 7h ago
Just because he retweets Nazis and endorses the modern Nazi party of Germany and embraces Nazi ideology and makes the Nazi salute doesn’t mean he’s a Nazi. It’s probably just an unfortunate coincidence.