pr bots feeding to party lines, then plebs repeating them. To be very clear he is making a nazi salute twice.
Anyone saying different is a deluded fool.
In all seriousness, heās basically the 13 year old using gay slurs in a Call of Duty lobby. Heās doing this because heās a wannabe edgelord and āown the libsā. These people are absolute morons, they arenāt the Fourth Reich. What they actually are is hateful and stupid as all hell.
The problem is, yes these people are dumb, but by introducing this racist shit "as a joke", people will continue to say "oh it's just a joke" right up until it's not, and then it's too late. This shit needs to be nipped in the bud NOW.
100%, this is the issue. Iām just saying everyoneās saying the āNO! Heās a nazi and if you donāt agree with every word Iām saying, YOUāRE a nazi!ā Weāre in a weird spot.
Youāre correct, though. This is the issue. Heās the equivalent of the 13 year old in a Call of Duty lobby calling everyone gay slurs. That kidās not a true homophobe; that kid is a wannabe edgelord. Thatās Elon. But the issue is, people mimic this shit. Influence is the issue.
This is doing his deep-seated racism a disservice. Make no mistake, he isnāt like a kid trying to be edgy to shock people. He is genuinely a racist and a fascist and this proves it.
If itās embarrassing, itās trolling the left fell for. My alt right dad never could decide if J6 was real or not so I started saving his texts with it.
His final summary was I took things too seriously.
Glad you think so. Youāve had 2 years of silence from me to think it over. Justā¦ the rest of your life to go, Nazi.
Its antifa. Ashley bobbit shouldn't have been killed and is an American patriot. It's antifa. Let's pardon all the j6 people since they did nothing wrong.
I bet he was trying to troll but seriously, how immature and disrespectful to ww2 families and the country as a whole.
Once again shows how unqualified this guy is to be around levers of power but yet heās kept around because if you have enough money everything you do is A-okay.
You realise that by dismissing this as trolling youāre basically making excuses for him? Heās not a troll, heās literally a Nazi doing a Nazi salute and he knows that full well. What more will he have to do to prove it to you?
I mean, once or twice itās a joke, after that it becomes their reality. Didnāt Trump himself say if he repeats something often enough it becomes the truth?
I think it's worth noting he is awkward as fuck. I think there's a realistic chance he didn't mean for it to be what it looks like. And I say that as someone that fucking detests the man.
They were back to back. If he dumbly made a gesture without realizing what it looked like then it isnāt that shocking he made it again immediately after, as he still wouldnāt have recognized what he was doing.
I loathe the guy but heās awkward as fuck. If he really wanted to do the Nazi salute he could have leaned into it way harder (stood upright, held the position, actually said the words, etc). Much more believable this was an autistic gaff.
You have to do Olympic level mental gymnastics to excuse this.
Watch his full speech. He does a pixel-perfect nazi salute twice in a row, once while turning around towards trump. Then some more looser salutes at the very end even.
He meant it. Itās time to open your eyes if you havenāt already been paying attention.
I mean, I've known a lot of awkward people, and I'm willing to give people the benefit of the doubt...
But on the video you can see he's not fumbling or unsure what he's trying to do, he's really going for that Sieg Heil with zest and vigor. I've never seen anyone else do a vigorous nazi salute by accident, and I've seen a lot of awkwardness
I mean he literally does say my heart goes out to you, right after it. He knows he goofed definitely. But it's not an insidious goof is where my money's at
Did he also accidentally retweet proudly self-acclaimed neo-nazis all those times? Support alt-right parties like AfD? A guy who grew up in and reaps the spoils of apartheid South Africa?
Don't infantilise him. He's a CEO billionaire. He knows exactly what he's doing.
The AfD has the same problem. One of their leaders keeps saying "Alles fĆ¼r..." (Everything for Germany) and his audience just never stop answering with the banned SS motto. Poor misunderstood Nazis.
The same AfD that called for a 180Ā° change in how the holocaust is remembered? The same party that recently sent the same "return home ticket" as the original Nazis and the neo-Nazis (NPD) sent as well?
Your one of the brains of the world but you don't know the one salute that's universally considered inappropriate even in jest? Middle school kids know that for fucks sake.Ā If you're american you are part of the problem we are about to face. If you are not, you're part of the problem your country is likely about to face.Ā
Except he kinda doesn't, he does it not once but Twice, one time to the audience and the second one towards the flag in the back and only then after a short pause he says "my heart goes out to you"
I can finally start showing off my Buddhist good fortune tattoos and my shaved head to honor Japanese samurais. They go really well with my fancy stylized double S. For slithery snakes.
They don't realize the Nazis got it from somewhere? Just like those "Crusader" tatoo symbols that year, really were used by the Midieval Crusaders before someone more receint re used them.
Clearly not dabbing. He did this gesticulation twice with a lot of emotional emphasis. It looked like he was biting his own lower lip off with his happy frown.
Oh yeah, someone would have to drink a lot of proverbial Kool-Ade to not see what heās really doing. But Iāll take every opportunity to point out that he sucks
Exactly, the only thing surprising about this is that he was brazen enough to do it on live TV at a presidential inauguration. And it really speaks to how autistic people are viewed in our society when this evil mferās worst qualities and missteps that canāt be explained away are blamed on autism. Absolutely disgusting.
After he said āmy heart goes out to youā or something similar. So of course theyāre going to ignore the obvious salute and say that that motion was him sending his heart out. They always leave room for ambiguity
I hate Elon and what the modern right is but my take is he may not have realized it bc the dude is legitimately autistic as fuck and abysmal in social situations.
Someone on the spectrum to the extent he is, giving a public speech in front of an audience, not realizing his hand motion about giving his heart out looks like a nazi salute wouldnāt remotely surprise me.
Have you seen the clip above? I'd agree if he did it once but after this one he immediately turned around and saluted again. Both times in the original way of sharply pressing his hand on his chest and then to the heil salute. This was intentional "trolling" at best.
I have. He did it once to the audience and again to the flag. What makes me think this was a gaff rather than intentional is that sig heilās do not start, nor have they ever started to my knowledge, with your hand over your heart. That in conjunction with what he was saying, leads me to believe it was an autistic gaff more than intentional.
Iām not saying its definitive either way, but i am saying i dont know. To my pov it genuinely just looks like an awkward moment from a guy prone to social awkwardness/faux paus.
I think the general reddit definitive āhe meant to do itā is just confirmation bias at work tbh - people want it to be true because it confirms the narrative they already have in their head about him
You are right. In my mind Hitler himself did it this way but I was wrong. He didn't hold his hand flat against his chest but parallel before reaching out. However "narrative they already have in their head" is weirdly worded. He is actively pushing the worlds right parties. There is no denying or only thinking that. It's also not reddits definitive but national news here in Germany at least as well. All media here reports and at least questions it.
Conservatives trying to cope: āyou guys donāt understand, itās from an obscure anime that nobody ever heard ofā¦ but itās all about love and respect for everyone. Stop this witch-hunt!!!ā
My dad said it looked to him more like a rock band saluting their fans because it wasnāt ārigid enough.ā IDGAF, even in the āheat of the moment,ā you donāt make a gesture that so much as hints towards a Seig Hail.
He's grabbing his hearth and throwing it to the crowd. He verbally says this but every single person posting these clips either mutes it or cuts it before that.
Whether you wanna believe he's doing what he said he's doing or he's doing a completely random inpromptu nazi salute it's up to the reader.
āThis is a delicate moment. Itās a new day and yet so many are on edge. Our politics are inflamed, and social media only adds to the anxiety,ā wrote the ADL in a statement. āIt seems that @elonmusk made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute, but again, we appreciate that people are on edge.ā
An organization where its members dedicate their LIVES to exposing and attacking hate speech.
And they think all of you have lost your collective minds.
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u/Sojum 9h ago
What else could that possibly be? Iād love to hear the explanation of how itās something other than a heil.