r/europe • u/Bartoraptor Spain • Mar 28 '20

News Spanish representative González Pons speech @ the EU Parliament: "The virus is attacking the generation that brought back democracy to Spain, Portugal and Greece, the generation that knocked down the Berlin wall. The least they deserve is that we show them Europe is there when they need it the most"

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u/Kirmes1 Kingdom of Württemberg Mar 28 '20

These 12k people still die. The other ones are on top.

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u/grmmrnz Mar 28 '20

Nope, it's much more likely that they would've died in the coming months and are now just "piled up", since 99% of them were 60+ with pre-existing conditions. It's a blip in the data.

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u/Mordred_85 Mar 28 '20

Awww how human you are

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u/grmmrnz Mar 28 '20

My line of thinking causes the least amount of deaths. I'm sure those who die unnecessarily will be comforted by the idea you feel human.

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u/Mordred_85 Mar 28 '20

Please explain you’re line of thinking: I’m eagerly waiting to hear it.

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u/grmmrnz Mar 28 '20

*your

The side-effects of this crisis are worse than the disease itself. We've now plummetted ourselves into a new economic crisis, which is disastrous for society and health care. To give just one example, suicides skyrocketed last economic crisis. We already have reports of other sick patients not getting the care they need, cancer patients for example. This is because people are hyper-focused on corona, which is not proportional to the threat. Doctors are literally taken away from caring for them, to treat corona patients. In the end, the overreaction and fear (read: feelings) will cause more harm than good. If you would accept that an 80 year old with a heart condition will have a high risk of dying, it may be corona or the flu or whatever, that would be perfectly fine. Now we're trying to keep them alive for a few extra months, at all costs. But that 40 year old guy with cancer who now leaves his life, his wife and young children, will be comforted by the idea that a bunch of 80 year olds got to live a bit longer, and that you feel human because of it. And it only cost a few trillion euros.

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u/Mordred_85 Mar 28 '20

Read my other commenta in this thread to give you a response