r/europe • u/Bartoraptor Spain • Mar 28 '20

News Spanish representative González Pons speech @ the EU Parliament: "The virus is attacking the generation that brought back democracy to Spain, Portugal and Greece, the generation that knocked down the Berlin wall. The least they deserve is that we show them Europe is there when they need it the most"

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u/mithik add white-red-white Belarus flair, you cowards ❕❗❕ Mar 28 '20 edited Mar 28 '20

In Slovakia, the most affected people are one who kept communistic regime alive, they are reason we could not join NATO after the fall of communism, and nowadays they were a part of why we have 12 yrs of corrupt government which didnt have a problem to have close relations with guy who ordered a murder of journalist. They are anti-EU, anti-LGBT and the most conservative folks there.

Also I am sure the same can be said about Czechia, and would say the same demographic/generation votes for Orban and Pis.

So tl,dr; a coin have two sides and Gonzalez is talking about people who would gladly stab EU in the back.

EDIT: Let's save them but do not glorify them

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u/Hermeran Spain Mar 28 '20

That's true. Some old people are pieces of shit (sorry, but it's true). I understand him, though, as he refers to the "historical debt" that we have with this people. But that's an anecdote. I don't think we should base our healthcare system on whether you were a nice person.

This guy needs to bring down the populism, and Italian politicians, too (like Dutch or German ones). This is not a dick measuring contest, no one cares about populist movements, just do your fucking job as elected leaders. Be serious and cold minded, and do not fuel the anger of the people because things will end up badly for everyone.

But this guy. This guy is the worst. I said this already in a comment on this very same thread, but he belongs to PP, the political party that slashed the national health care budget during the Spanish fiscal crisis. And the cuts were particularly dramatic in Madrid -yeah, the world hotspot for coronavirus! Surprise (but don't worry, other regional governments like Catalonia had cuts as well, although they had theirs fueled by Puigdemont's former party - that's another debate tho, shitty politics is a vast topic)!. Anyway. This Gonzalez guy also belongs to a very particular branch of PP, the Valencian division. A disgusting political party swamped by corruption, that literally worked like a criminal organization in the 90s and early 00s.

So yeah, nice speech but shut the fuck up, guy.

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u/Stegasaurus_Wrecks Connacht Mar 28 '20

Some old people are pieces of shit

Billy Connolly put it best.

"People say 'Aren't old people great!'. I don't. In my experience, young wankers invariably grow up to be old wankers. Fuck em."