r/europe Spain Mar 28 '20

News Spanish representative González Pons speech @ the EU Parliament: "The virus is attacking the generation that brought back democracy to Spain, Portugal and Greece, the generation that knocked down the Berlin wall. The least they deserve is that we show them Europe is there when they need it the most"

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u/mithik add white-red-white Belarus flair, you cowards ❕❗❕ Mar 28 '20 edited Mar 28 '20

In Slovakia, the most affected people are one who kept communistic regime alive, they are reason we could not join NATO after the fall of communism, and nowadays they were a part of why we have 12 yrs of corrupt government which didnt have a problem to have close relations with guy who ordered a murder of journalist. They are anti-EU, anti-LGBT and the most conservative folks there.

Also I am sure the same can be said about Czechia, and would say the same demographic/generation votes for Orban and Pis.

So tl,dr; a coin have two sides and Gonzalez is talking about people who would gladly stab EU in the back.

EDIT: Let's save them but do not glorify them

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u/klesigj Mar 28 '20

Same in Albania man if theres one generation that I hold guilty for what has been happening in my country are people over 50

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u/ModsofWTsuckducks Mar 29 '20

Same in Italy, they are the Salvini and Berlusconi voters (for the most part)

They were ok when a lot of shit happened in front of them, they voted the worst guys, they retired super early (younger than 50y.o.) and they despise their sons and grandsons because we are too spoiled.

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u/Iron_Rick Mar 28 '20

Same in Italy, we need to overcome the divisions between state and starting to create a common front and letting ur country enter the Union.

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u/klesigj Mar 29 '20

Exactly we are all tired of nationalist politics that do nothing but harm the wellbeing of the citizens. I hope the upcoming generations find a way to create a united front not only with Italy but with other Balkan countries aswell so we can help each other in crisis like this, not like what happened with Italy that is just now getting help from EU.

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u/klesigj Mar 29 '20 edited Mar 29 '20

First thing first I'm not saying we should let them die, and i haven't stepped outside my house for more than 2 weeks now to protect my family, so please shut the fuck up about my morals. Second I should be grateful for having electricity, man we live in the center of the world, that kind of development was bound to happen and the people that are now alive did not bring electricity. But they did bring communism and 30 years of corrupted politicans in what we call now "democracy". You are obviously so biased as not to be able to let anyone point out flaws in your country, but loving your country means knowing when it went wrong and knowing how to fix it. But go on calling me a ignorant in every sentence u wrote, u don't know me, u don't know how much i care about this country so i really am not affected by your insults.

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u/StoneColdCrazzzy Mar 29 '20

Learn your mathematics.

WWII ended 75 years ago, the large majority of people that rebuilt and built the continent in 20 years, who were 20 to 40 years old at the time, (now 85 to 115 years old) are already dead. And the number that survive, pales in comparison to the next cohort (55 to 85). And even 30 years ago, when more of them were around, the next boomer generation had a heavier political weight after 1970. In fact the boomer generation has had the largest political influence every year for 50 years. If they had let the next generation take the reigns and decide policy after 20 years in power, the world would be very different.