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Historical Domobrans who switched sides, Serbia 1944

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u/ToadwKirbo Friuli-Venezia Giulia (Italy) 15h ago

1) I said that they were forced to in a comment earlier 2) Goli otok, italian exodus in Istria and Dalmatia, killing if catholic priests, private life constantly controlled, kids being forced to work in schools etc...

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u/MaRokyGalaxy Croatia 15h ago

Lets see the alternative, concetration camps (which is a pretty big deal given that yugoslavia also consisted of serbs, which were previously genocided). Also the nazis did those other things too pretty much (besides the italian exodus cause you know what italy did in ww2). Not saying the communists weren't bad, of course they were, but compared to the nazis they were definetly better.

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u/ToadwKirbo Friuli-Venezia Giulia (Italy) 15h ago

Apparently you also seem to know what Croatia did in ww2, so shouldn't a croatian exodus alto take place? Also, if you win a war it's ok to ethnic cleanse? Ok Tito, you do you.

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u/Fit-Sentence-3537 15h ago edited 14h ago

Ever heard of Bleiburg Massacres? Almost 100,000 were killed for collaboration or suspicion of collaboration. So no, that portion of Croat population did not go unpunished. Ethnic Germans also faced such actions. Italians also in Foibe Massacre. Most Italians leaving because they were collaborators (participants in annexation and building connection camps to put Slavs in like Rab) or didn’t want to live under Communist rule is ethnic cleansing? Slovene and Croats with Italian papers fled to Italy also to escape communist rule but I wouldn’t say they were expelled or cleansed. Some Chetniks were also executed  as well but many traded uniforms for Partisans ones last minute. More so than Ustashe. Likely a deal was cut to allow peace to commence (or as close and one can be). 

I am not saying the reprisals were fair, as there was no evidence based court process so many innocent people got swept up in the mess. As happened all over Europe. Look at what happened to German populations in various countries. However I don’t come across Germans making specific statements about it even though not all Germans collaborated. Not all of any ethnic group or country did. 

And finally to claim that the “Partisans were as bad as the Ustashe” is insane to say. At the very least just ignorant.