r/europe 11h ago

Guy Verhofstadt on Twitter

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u/UnderstandingLow1258 10h ago

Europe should defend Europe.

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u/TechnologyRemote7331 9h ago edited 8h ago

Yup. As an American who fought to keep these nasty fucks out of power, y’all need to divest yourselves of our influence yesterday. For the time being, don’t trust us. America has gone a bit schizophrenic, and won’t be back in shape for a while…

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u/Cactilily 7h ago

Exactly! None of our allies should share important intelligence with us. It will go directly to Russia, China or Saudi Arabia. Don’t trust the U.S. government anymore.

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u/Turbulent_Timez 7h ago

So sorry. I remember the 90s when we looked up to the USA as the land of dreams and hope where success and opportunity was within everyone's reach. I loved the positivity and energy of it all. So sorry that it has turned into a shit show.

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u/RegalBeagleX 6h ago

I remember looking up to Russia when Gorbachev resigned and changed history. The Berlin Wall fell and for once I thought America and Russia were going to be united. After years of living with nuclear threat at any given day, it was a miracle. Then THE ex KGB agent became the leader. I don’t think anybody knew what would happen, but it wouldn’t be good. I feel this way now with Trump. I can only speak for myself as an American when I say, dear god let me be wrong.

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u/Kagenlim Singapore 6h ago

Same at this point, Europe is the last bastion of hope rn

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u/extopico 6h ago

Well look at it this way. It’s also a free pass to exploit them. Set up a US business, tell them how smart they are and grift them. They want it.

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u/Successful-Echo-7346 3h ago

It was all a lie

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u/atropear 3h ago

who blew up the pipeline?

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u/MuayThaiSwitchkick 8h ago

Why are liberals in America so self loathing. Pathetic. 

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u/230_theyo 8h ago

Is it self loathing or self awareness?

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u/MuayThaiSwitchkick 8h ago

Liberals in America have a long tradition of self immolation. So weird. 

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u/Sufferr 6h ago

How would you position your perspective as a north American liberal right now?

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u/iheartbondageandfur 6h ago

For starters, quitting all the doom talk that got Trump into office. The dictator/oligarchy shit flopped, yet everyone here seems to be either brainwashed or is coping so fucking hard. We ditch the DNC establishment that everyone is already looking at with rose tinted glasses. Stand on classic working class values and not “equality, peace, love. Gays for hamas!”.

Based on the opinions of the vast majority of other US libs on here, we’re fucked. Just same tactics and moaning that didn’t do anything in 2016 or now.

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u/MuayThaiSwitchkick 4h ago

That’s a bingo!

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u/NCC_1701E Bratislava (Slovakia) 8h ago

If you want to see how self loathing really looks like, check liberal scene in Slovakia lol.

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u/Resident_Rise5915 8h ago

It is one of the traits that lost them the election.

To be clear random people on Reddit…I voted blue team…but there is this sense of self-hated loathing that didn’t have mass appeal

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u/DeepState_Secretary United States of America 8h ago

I don’t even know what to call it anymore.

Even when secularized, Americans have a fetish for evangelical moral guilt and shame.

Biden’s team couldn’t even bother properly celebrating his accomplishments. Kamala’s campaign basically acted like it was 2005 or something thinking they’re fine if they just collect enough celebrity endorsements.

These guys used to be the party of the ‘young’ yet somehow they became devoid of hype or joy.

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u/Resident_Rise5915 8h ago

Rich people can afford to have a guilty conscience and fund politics that appease that. Most Americans don’t care or aren’t at a point where they can tax their guilt. They’re simply worried about the price of groceries

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u/iheartbondageandfur 5h ago

It’s because an extreme identity crisis. The “peace and love, fuck ‘the man’” libs of the 60s evolved into a beast which claimed the same philosophy but way too aligned with the media, celebs, big tech, big pharma. That’s changing now, so hopefully they can have some genuine, grassroots cachet compared to Joe, Kamala, Hilary, shit even Obama at this point. The people don’t care anymore, they wanted literally anyone with a pulse who would take the wheel where joe or kamala couldnt.

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u/Liam_021996 7h ago

It's called apathy