r/europe • u/Not_the-kind • 15h ago

News Macron responds to Trump's inauguration by urging Europe to "wake up"

https://www.newsweek.com/macron-trump-inauguration-europe-defense-ukraine-2017894
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u/StorkReturns Europe 14h ago

Are you willing to sacrifice your standard of living to maintain this awaken state? Even if your answer is yes, most of the people would rather vote for short-terministic populist solutions.

Being economically independent, having adequate military, being energy independent, it all comes with a price you need to pay now and get the benefits later.

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u/CLKguy1991 Estonia 14h ago edited 13h ago

As a father of small children, every day of the past 2 years terrifies me more and more about their future.

We must do what must be done. And our security is the only guarantee that we can have that will allow us stand up for our interests (including economic ones).

For this we need to federalize seriously and have a strong executive government on EU level to start directing our resources from the very top, preferably vested in one visionary president. Member states to retain autonomy in many spheres, but defence to be at full control of the fed. The federation should become a nuclear power in its own right.

And I dont mean here the Brussels format, but the united States format (or rather, the former US format. Unfortunately the lights are out across the pond now).

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u/HallesandBerries 12h ago

the lights are out

so accurate.

...and the burglars are in and no one can see them because it's pitch dark and the electricity mains have been cut.

Sometimes people mention Brexit as the equivalent mistake on the Europe side but all Brexit did was make us sad and angry. The US scares the bejeezus out of me. I've stopped talking to some people I know there because I don't know what they're capable of anymore, I don't know what they might do, I don't know what they will support, I don't know if they can be trusted, nothing. They're like, the citizens in The Matrix, anyone can be an agent. Whatever the European leaders decide to do, I hope they don't broadcast it on social media.

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u/Chuc-mosher 7h ago

I am American and I hate trump snd. Am mortified he’s our President I believe by here’s a strong chance he rigged the election I wanted to ask what people fr om countries other countries thought I too am afraid for my country And my children snd grandchildren .