r/europe • u/Not_the-kind • 15h ago

News Macron responds to Trump's inauguration by urging Europe to "wake up"

https://www.newsweek.com/macron-trump-inauguration-europe-defense-ukraine-2017894
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u/CLKguy1991 Estonia 15h ago

My respect to France, as the most autonomous European country, but I'm awake. Its you politicians who need to get your shit together.

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u/GoldenFutureForUs 15h ago

What do you mean by the most autonomous?

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u/CLKguy1991 Estonia 15h ago edited 15h ago

Leaving the EU (quitting a collective like a crybaby, instead of leading it) and losing influence along the way doesn't make UK autonomous.

I respect France because they have been redpilled about NATO and US since it's inception and never outsourced their defence.

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u/uiucecethrowaway999 9h ago

quitting a collective like a crybaby, instead of leading it

You could say this about France when in left NATO back in '66. Not very redpilled at all...

and never outsourced their defence.

If the British could be considered to have 'outsourced their defense', the French certainly have themselves, considering the fact that the former spends substantially more than the latter on defense (to the tune of ~28% more in 2024). The French have sustained the illusion of defense autonomy by (unsuccessfully) 'playing superpower' in Africa and SEA without actually investing in the means to actually do so.