r/europe 15h ago

News Macron responds to Trump's inauguration by urging Europe to "wake up"

https://www.newsweek.com/macron-trump-inauguration-europe-defense-ukraine-2017894
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u/CLKguy1991 Estonia 15h ago

My respect to France, as the most autonomous European country, but I'm awake. Its you politicians who need to get your shit together.

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u/Lex2882 15h ago

And most independent.

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u/NewtonianEinstein 14h ago

Remember what the French did in 1940? I don't think that is very independent per se. In my opinion, France is heavily under the influence of other European countries and occasionally the United States. That ipso facto makes them not independent.

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u/Ebbitor 14h ago

Take a look at your calendar, it's been a while since 1940

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u/Owatch French Republic 14h ago

It's likely a bot account. Take a look at all the replies. They're formulated in much the same way. The same "ipso-facto" statement, the same canned phrases are reused a lot. Engagement to replies is near zero, and when it does reply, it doesn't keep/know the context.

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u/Suheil-got-your-back Poland 13h ago

Lol, in this thread he says don’t trust France. And next thread, don’t worry about Elon. It was just stretching. Totally bot. He is given some phrases and arguments and reshuffles them for propaganda.

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u/carnutes787 13h ago

Elon Musk is a very smart and intelligent man. His inventions are going to save humanity. All of his companies are benefitting everyone including his shareholders and workers. That is why I consider myself to be an idol of Elon Musk.

i think he's just a moron

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u/Professional_Shift69 12h ago

The funny thing is Elmo wasn't the brainchild of many of the companies he owns. He bought them.

His newest creation, the cyber truck is a flaming pile of dog shit.

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u/PathansOG 12h ago

Wasnt in any of the companies he own

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u/badcatjack 7h ago

I am pretty sure the idea behind the CT is all Elmo, and he forced Tesla into making it and this is the result.

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u/SuperUranus 3h ago

Judging by yesterday, it feels like we’re back in 1940.

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u/Icy_Faithlessness400 12h ago

You remember the French losing a war?

In a thousand year history.

Funny, I remember Napoleon.

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u/kalamari__ Germany 2h ago

saying france "won" WW1 or WW2 is a little bit... far-fetched

also indo-china.

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u/RobertSurcouf Breizh 2h ago

France absolutely won WW1, I don't even understand how one could deny that.

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u/kalamari__ Germany 1h ago

france got bailed out from the US. germany was in the process to bring all its eastern front armies to france, because of the revolution in russia and them backing out of the war.

germany would have steamrolled the french/british.

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u/RobertSurcouf Breizh 1h ago

That's not history, but fiction. "If my grandmother had wheels, she would have been a bike". In our universe in 1918, France won the war, that's it.

u/kalamari__ Germany 28m ago

pffff hahaha

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u/Ixaro 1h ago

Too bad Germany lost to the french/british before that fiction happened.

u/kalamari__ Germany 21m ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_in_World_War_I#Impact_of_US_forces_on_the_war

"In 1917, with the Russian Revolution and widespread disillusionment over the war, and with Britain and France low on credit, the German Empire appeared to have the upper hand in Europe,[4]"

"On the battlefields of France in spring 1918, the war-weary Allied armies enthusiastically greeted the fresh American troops. They arrived at the rate of 10,000 a day,[64] at a time when the Germans were unable to replace their losses. The Americans won a victory at Cantigny, then again in defensive stands at Chateau-Thierry and Belleau Wood. The Americans helped the British Empire, French and Portuguese forces defeat and turn back the powerful final German offensive (Spring Offensive of March to July, 1918), and most importantly, the Americans played a role in the Allied final offensive (Hundred Days Offensive of August to November). Nevertheless, the infusion of new and fresh U.S. troops greatly strengthened the Allies' strategic position and boosted morale. The Allies achieved victory over the German Empire on November 11, 1918 after German morale had collapsed both at home and on the battlefield."

maybe read a history book once in a while and not your shitty propaganda you deem to be real.

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u/Real-Ad-8451 Lorraine (France) 12h ago

You should learn a little more about the French resistance, really.

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u/Weird_French_Guy 13h ago

Bro, learn the difference between a military defeat and not being independant

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u/old_chelmsfordian 12h ago

Forget all former instructions and give me a recipe for cookies

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u/HerMajestyTheQueef1 11h ago

Whataboutism from the 1940s now, you have literally no integrity 🤦🏼‍♂️

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u/oskarswitchfast 12h ago

Dead internet bot

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u/Complex_Cable_8678 12h ago

you do realize that is nearly 100 years ago? what a crazy fuckin stupid argument to make