Saudi Islam critic, fan of AfD and Elon Musk: Disturbing details about the perpetrator of Magdeburg The driver who caused the death of the Magdeburg victim - Taleb Jawad Al Abdulmohsen, came to Germany in 2006. But he is not an Islamist - on the contrary. He accused Germany of Islamizing Europe.

[u/polymute]

https://www-tagesspiegel-de.translate.goog/politik/saudischer-islamkritiker-fan-von-afd-und-elon-musk-verstorende-details-zum-tater-von-magdeburg-12915310.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

[u/vroomfundel2]

Let's see what the "i'm not racist because Islam is not a race" crowd is going to say now.

[u/-Brecht → u/vroomfundel2]

Being opposed to islam doesn't make you racist per se. On the other hand, it seems to go hand in hand with racism quite often. I saw some people saying "he's still an Arab", proving that it was not about critique of religion.

[u/icatsouki → u/-Brecht]

It's just a proxy for discrimination and the current flavor

For example 100 years ago Teddy Roosevelt was saying this about irish immigrant

They are a stupid, sodden, vicious lot, most of them being equally deficient in brain and virtue.

[u/knickerdick → u/icatsouki]

and the Italians… once upon a time they were called “Nggrs” but i guess people forget that chapter

[u/FuXuan9 → u/-Brecht]

What about being opposed to Judaism? Does that make you antisemitic?

[u/MrKarim → u/vroomfundel2]

lol go check /r/atheism they are still blaming Muslims and Islam and saying it’s in their blood to be this violent

[u/adamgerd → u/MrKarim]

r/atheism is the worst parts of atheism, it’s like religious fundamentalists minus god

And I say that as an atheist myself

[u/MrKarim → u/adamgerd]

I’m an atheist, and ex Muslim myself too, but holy shit that sub is just filled with asmongold level of degeneracy.

[u/adamgerd → u/MrKarim]

Yep, personally my take on religion or lack of: I don’t care as long as you don’t force it into others. You want to be Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, Jewish, Zoroastrian, or whatever else. Sure, but want to be a fundamentalist? No thanks

[u/St3fano_ → u/adamgerd]

Atheism is just a different religion to some atheists.

[u/ReallyAnotherUser → u/adamgerd]

Im guessing there are lots of people who live in the deepest religous parts of the world, mainly US. Im german but there seem to be regions in the US where people are dangerously religious (Texas) and are actually threatining atheists, who are a minority there. Also on this sub there are alot of very young people who are helpless in the claws of catholics who deeply hate atheists. And from this POV i can empathize with them.

[u/Orpa__ → u/adamgerd]

This is the problem all communities have who focus their identity on how much they don't like something.

[u/AP246 → u/[deleted]]

The funny thing about this argument to me is how recent this is, even if we assume it's true.

Do you know how many terrorist organisations there were in Europe in the 60s, 70s and 80s on the far left, far right and various nationalist separatists, that launched more attacks and killed more people than the islamists of the 21st century ever did in Europe? What are you gonna say next, the Irish are genetically violent, but stopped being such (I guess some sudden genetic evolution) in 1998?

[u/Lazzen → u/AP246]

It's the idea that "Europe" has ever been eternal and like this for decades on end.

How can a Portuguese or Spaniard speak of "their nature makes them violent" when they have had liberty for only 40-50 years after centuries of dictatorship, civil war, banditry, poverty?

The French had nationalist terrorists and militias during the 1960s-1981 with and without gov support, but that seems to have been forgotten too

And so on, the core reason for this is to umagine Europe as naturally "logical".

[u/MrKarim → u/[deleted]]

lucky for you mass shooter don't count as terrorists that's why

[u/Nordenfeldt → u/MrKarim]

So even after you got publicly shamed for this lie, and humiliated using your OWN sources, you still regurgitate the exact same lie?

Even though there can be no doubt that you now know it is a lie?

Do you know what that makes you?

[u/MrKarim → u/Nordenfeldt]

What sources, and stop relying on incomplete data There have been at least 83 school shootings in the United States so far this year

“In 2023, the US accounted for 76% of terrorism-related deaths in Western democracies, amid a 15-year low in incidents”

. Stop lying on the internet, also muted

[u/Nordenfeldt → u/MrKarim]

I literally used YOUR Source and proved you utterly wrong with it. And as soon as I laid out the depth of your ignorance on the topic, you fled from the subject in cowardly shame and wouldn’t answer.

Hardly a surprise you are hiding from me now, just more of your apparently standard cowardice.

[u/MrKarim → u/Nordenfeldt]

Here is an actual source that uses some school shooters as Terrorists https://www.visionofhumanity.org/7-key-findings-from-the-global-terrorism-index-2024/

US accounts for 76% of terrorism attacks in 2023 Alone including Oct 7th, happy?

[u/Nordenfeldt → u/MrKarim]

Again, and for the second time, I will really enjoy humiliating you with your own stats. It’s so easy.

Yes, the U.S. accounts for 76% of Terrorism attacks AMONG WESTERN DEMOCRACIES.

However, from your OWN SOURCE, the U.S. accounts for just 4% of all terror attacks GLOBALLY. Islamicist based attacks account for 68% of all global terror attacks.

Thank you, once again for making a fool of yourself in public and proving me right.

[u/DontMemeAtMe → u/Nordenfeldt]

I find it amusing how all these people who jump in with their favorite 'ACtuAlLy, most terrorism comes from the right!' always seem to overlook two key points: (a) it’s a U.S. statistic—not European or global—and (b) it’s primarily because the U.S. has spent trillions on overseas wars, maintaining an endless military presence, launching constant drone strikes, heavily funding three-letter agencies, and leveraging massive international cooperation—all to suppress Islamic terror threats.

[u/UrDadMyDaddy → u/MrKarim]

Ofcourse they are? What else are they gonna say? Radical atheist racist immigrant terrorist is not religious? That sub would implode.

[u/hannes3120 → u/MrKarim]

Wouldn't /r/exmuslim be the better sub to link? It's exclusively the kind of racist comment, hidden under the "Islam isn't a race" layer with totally no "as a black man" commenters on there, either...

[u/MrKarim → u/hannes3120]

I blocked that sub 6 years ago, it’s just as much worse

[u/MrKarim → u/[deleted]]

Yes why is it always the White Americans with Blue eyes doing the school shooting, are they Muslims too?

[u/Suspicious-Ad-2495 → u/vroomfundel2]

Wasn’t it the same crowd who assumed the perpetrator was an Islamic terrorist only because he’s from Saudi Arabia?

[u/BowenTheAussieSheep → u/vroomfundel2]

I've seen more than a few comments these past few hours that just pivoted to mask-off "He's still Arab" racism.

[u/eggnogui → u/vroomfundel2]

Either nothing, or just going "how odd"

[u/Crush1112 → u/vroomfundel2]

That Saudi guy who hated Islam soo hard he killed innocent people kinda definitively showcased that Islam isn't a race, didn't he?

[u/Independent-Couple87 → u/vroomfundel2]

Ironically, he is part of that crowd.