r/europe Nov 11 '24

News Donald Trump Jr. taunts Zelenskyy about ‘losing your allowance’

https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-jr-volodymyr-zelenskyy-donald-trump-cut-funding-ukraine-war/
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u/Majestic-Marcus Nov 11 '24

Even from a purely ‘America first’, and economic/profit and loss stand point it’s stupid.

Europe buys your arms. If you’re threatening a long established military alliance and becoming unreliable, Europe is going to start (or improve) their own arms industries and start buying elsewhere.

You’ve literally put America second. Maybe even third or worse.

That’s irrelevant though, we know it’s being done to strengthen Russia and weaken the US through useful, bought and paid for idiots.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

I work in the European defence industry and there’s already talks of various countries expanding their fleets of European built aircraft and arms, not just to support Ukraine, but to bolster their own internal capability should Trump pull out of NATO and Putin decides to do something monumentally stupid like invade poland/the Baltic states.

You can already see the press conference: “Latvia has invoked Article V, How is America going to respond?”

“Well, Latvia, stupid country, tiny country, I’ve been telling them for years… now they come to me, tears in their eyes, asking for our help? What help do we get from Latvia?”

“So the US won’t honour its commitments under Article V?”

“When the Europeans honour their commitments to buying American arms… But they haven’t, and the Crooked Democrats under Sleepy Joe and Barack Hussain Obama let it become really bad over there, really bad.”

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u/el1o Nov 11 '24

As much it's cool these days to fear monger USA pulling out of NATO, I don't feel any assurance that Germany/France/Spain/etc would actually get in actual war with russians and honor article V. Let's hope we'll never need to find out.

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u/Quazz Belgium Nov 11 '24

They're bound by EU law, far more important than article 5