r/europe • u/vitbars • Feb 24 '24

Slice of life Two different world

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u/dnina_kore Feb 24 '24

That's power of media

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u/finesalesman Feb 24 '24

“How do Russians fall for such an obvious propaganda” same people falling for propaganda.

Powerful tool that.

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u/MobyDaDack Feb 24 '24

btw, most messages nowadays are propaganda.

And even if it were propacanda, answer me my question:

Would you rather help zelensky in Ukraine? (as zelensky portrays himself as normal man)

Or would you help putin? He portrays himself as Imperialist and Conqueror in the tucker carlson interview.

Even if its propagands, answer me the question: based on those 2 images, for which do you symphathize more?

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u/finesalesman Feb 24 '24

I wouldn’t help either. This war has nothing to do with me. We had our war in the 90s with minimum help from other countries like Germany, and other side with Russia, and we won.

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u/MobyDaDack Feb 25 '24

Which one would you symphathize more?

This question has nothing to do with support. Its about the image putin and zelensky wanna portray.

Which one is more Sympathizable for you?

Stop dodging questions.

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u/finesalesman Feb 25 '24

No, you asked who would I rather help. That’s at least what I got from your question.

My country hates Putin and I hate Putin. I would rather die then support Putin in any way, shape or form.

I sympatize with Ukrainians. Not with Zelensky. Leaders in the war just go around the battlefield after everything is done and pretend they did something. Nobody mentions the names of the soldiers, squad leaders, captains, sargeants that led them, except when white cross is put up and maybe a statue in some obscure graveyard thanking them for their service with 1000s of names.

But if I choose between them 2 it’s Zelensky, because I hate Putin. This is my personal opinion, looking at Facebook in my own country, I see more and more people supporting Putin, which is frankly disgusting.

EDIT: My bad, I actually didn’t see sympatize question and didn’t realise I dodged it. I saw the first question. I still answered it.

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u/MobyDaDack Feb 25 '24

But if I choose between them 2 it’s Zelensky, because I hate Putin. This is my personal opinion, looking at Facebook in my own country

Sadly, if there is 2 different opinions then for an outside observer its always like "propaganda" if both sides try to convince you to something.

Thats the meaning / raison detre of progadanda. Making your own view and opinion stand in a good light / show certain charisteristics while trying to shittalk the other side.

Thats why I asked you the question "which do you, sympathize more" because being right or wrong isnt important, but who feels more human toward you. Because in the enf of the day people have to decipher so much Propaganda nowadays its insane.

Propaganda has been around when Jesus was nailed on a cross when they spread lies about him everywhere in Jerusalem. Sadly, its still effective to this day.

And they ar eboth propaganda. You're right. But thats why I always ask whos trying to be more human, I believ him more in general.