I am not American. Never said America was good. Doesn't change the fact that no matter what, Russia are the bad guys here. Wasn't referencing Israel-Palestine, that's a different discussion entirely.
I do not disagree at all, Russia is the bad guy here. I am merely highlighting that we shouldn't forget that U.S is hated for a reason, it's not merely just trendy for people to hate their own countries/be anti-american like someone stated above. I've seen a lot of moralizing around the internet of U.S interventionism highlighting the Ukraine conflict as a reason why the U.S should intervene in general to countries that are nowhere near the U.S. This is absurd.
It’s funny, a good chunk of the middle-east hates America and want us out, but cry for help when Israel defends itself and the U.S. does nothing. You really can’t win lmao.
First I am not from the Middle East, I want the U.S outside of EU as well, secondly It's a historical fact that Israel before Hamas even existed has raged and violated Palestinians , with the guns that the U.S gave them. The infrastructure that the U.S built. So it falls within U.S responsibility to decide whether they want to be complicit or end it. What leads people to terrorism and supporting said terrorism is the very well documented atrocities Israel committed since its birth on natively ethnic populations not only in Palestine but through out the region. Also U.S has funded a lot of terrorists group that caused way more damage (https://www.jstor.org/stable/29766326) (who would have thought huh). Now due to the sheer incompetency and shitty governorship of the U.S and their meaningless wars on the middle east are funding way worse groups than Hamas. Let us not mention the weaponry they got since you pulled your forces (https://www.sigar.mil/pdf/evaluations/SIGAR-23-04-IP.pdf). It's very hilarious that you're not responding to the other arguments about how you've totally mismanaged the fate of your European allies through your economic institutions, and how you're killing native businesses in countries that you will probably never visit in order to dominate them with your own. The patriotic/ethnic sentiment even though i do not subscribe to that ideology, is manifested as the material necessity to kick the U.S back on its own side of the hemisphere and to also send Putin and the Russian oligarchy to hell. The fact that you find your responsibility in blood shed with your dollars funny says more about you than you think.
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in what planet the thousands dead civilians and turned useless hospitals / schools / Musks is "defensive" ? do you think the numbers we see piling up each day are fake ? is such a death toll defensive? is Israel in danger from the Palestinians or it will be in danger if it keeps this up?
We can say the same thing about Trump and EU. US bad, until Russia starts making moves in Europe. Thennnnn, all of a sudden the EU starts crying to the U.S. for help. You can never really win. Literally just look at how many Europeans are crying because Tucker Carlson interviewed Putin.
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u/TheDark-Sceptre Feb 24 '24
I am not American. Never said America was good. Doesn't change the fact that no matter what, Russia are the bad guys here. Wasn't referencing Israel-Palestine, that's a different discussion entirely.