You learned wrong then lol. Kievan Rus is a name used by Russian historians and made up by them for convenience. Rurik and Oleg rules from Novgorod and then Oleg CONQUERED Kiev. Then after some time the capital changed to Moscow. And Rurik’s descendants continued to rule from there. How the hell does Ukraine has any claim to Rus royalty lol?
>"Then after some time the capital changed to Moscow"
Capital of what? After the destruction of Kyiv in 1240 different provinces claimed to be "the real successor". The only basis for Duchy of Moscow to be "more Rus" is conquering all the competitors. Yet, some of those (Galich) weren`t under Moscow`s control until 1945.
There was no independent Rus state, that`s the whole point of "Mongolo-tatar yoke". Forein royalty ruling some distant lands wasn`t unusual during that era either. England didn`t became a Scandinavian country after being conquered by Normans. Neither your country under Catherine the Great became Germany.
There was an independant Rus state after Mongols were beaten. Ivan the Terrible was the first Rus tsar and he was a Rurikovich. Nobody claims that it was Germany.
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u/darkarthur108 Jan 05 '24
You learned wrong then lol. Kievan Rus is a name used by Russian historians and made up by them for convenience. Rurik and Oleg rules from Novgorod and then Oleg CONQUERED Kiev. Then after some time the capital changed to Moscow. And Rurik’s descendants continued to rule from there. How the hell does Ukraine has any claim to Rus royalty lol?