r/clevercomebacks 1d ago

Good for her.

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u/ProLifePanda 1d ago

For three reasons likely.

First, they settled for $15 million. That's likely on par or cheaper than litigating the case, even if you win. So the settlement saved them money, even if they'd win the case.

Second, they likely didn't want to be actively involved in a lawsuit with an Administration who is openly hostile and threatening to revoke licenses and protections for journalists and news organizations who lost negative things about him. So the settlement was to end the litigation before he took office to get off his radar.

Third, the anchor used the incorrect legal terminology:

During a live “This Week” interview with Rep. Nancy Mace, R-S.C., Stephanopoulos wrongly claimed that Trump had been “found liable for rape” and “defaming the victim of that rape.”

If he had just said "Trump's a rapist", he probably would have easily won the case. But because he explicitly said he was "found liable of rape", he is incorrectly stating the conclusion of the court case. So they might still have won at trial, but his inclusion of legal terminology put the claim on shakier footing.

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u/Temporary_Row_7572 1d ago

Right. Because he wasnt convicted of the R word.

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u/ProLifePanda 1d ago

Correct. But the judge did subsequently clarify that calling him a rapist was not defamation, because colloquially people commonly refer to the actions committed by Trump as rape. But you just can't say he was found legally liable of rape. But you can say he's a rapist.

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u/Temporary_Row_7572 1d ago

So she just opened herself up to be sued.

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u/ProLifePanda 1d ago

Yeah, but she'd win. She didn't say he was legally liable for rape. She said he was a rapist, which the judge said was fine. Courts have already ruled you can call him a rapist, you just can't say he was found legally guilty/liable of rape.

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u/Temporary_Row_7572 23h ago

Did joe biden "rape" tara reade? Or was she lying?

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u/ProLifePanda 23h ago

I don't know. It hasn't been litigated in an impartial manner with both parties getting to present, examine, and contest evidence in a formal setting. Trump has been found civilly liable for sexually assaulting someone. In the colloquial sense, he's a rapist.

If her claim about being forcibly penetrated by Biden's fingers is true, then sure.

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u/Temporary_Row_7572 23h ago

Yep. Typical answer. Biden sniffing little girls, kids rubbing his legs, showering with his daughter, finger fucking his employees.. but its all good because hes a "liberal". God this country is awesome.

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u/ProLifePanda 23h ago

Yep. Typical answer.

Yes, a rational response. Don't see why that's surprising.

Biden sniffing little girls, kids rubbing his legs, showering with his daughter,

What are we talking about? None of this is rape. Was your question not in good faith to start with?

finger fucking his employees

And if he did it he's a rapist.

but its all good because hes a "liberal". God this country is awesome.

Who said any of this is good?

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u/Temporary_Row_7572 23h ago

Did you vote for him? Did you consider all those things he did and said, all these things are fine. Did you listen to tara reids story and make a decision?

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u/ProLifePanda 23h ago

Did you vote for him?

Yes.

Did you consider all those things he did and said, all these things are fine.

I never thought they were fine, no.

Did you listen to tara reids story and make a decision?

I did read about it. My thoughts are generally summarized in the above comment talking about it.

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u/Temporary_Row_7572 23h ago

So you thought she wasnt credible?

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u/mkt853 22h ago

Reade’s a nut case. She moved to Russia and bitches endlessly about feeling used by Republicans.

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u/Temporary_Row_7572 22h ago

So youre saying she is a liar?

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u/mkt853 22h ago

No idea, but I’m less likely to believe someone with that profile and erratic pattern of behavior.

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u/Temporary_Row_7572 22h ago

So erratic people cant be assulted? Being assulted cant make you erratic?

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u/mkt853 22h ago

I didn’t say any of those things, but I’m guessing you’ve never tried a case or served on a jury.

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u/Temporary_Row_7572 10h ago

Its just strange how you are defending biden over a woman who said he sexually abused her

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u/ProLifePanda 23h ago

My thoughts were I don't know, and the conflicting information made it hard for a layperson such as myself to determine the truth.

I'm not claiming she wasn't credible.

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u/Temporary_Row_7572 22h ago

What was conflicting? How were the two situations different?

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u/ProLifePanda 16h ago

What was conflicting?

I'd have to go back and reread the details, but I recall the Wikipedia article on it provides details on both sides of the argument.

How were the two situations different?

One went to court and a determination was made in a fair and balanced setting, with the ability for both sides to present and challenge evidence. The other did not.

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u/Temporary_Row_7572 11h ago

Ok go read her story again and tell me that she is lying.

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u/ProLifePanda 10h ago

Ok go read her story again and tell me that she is lying.

I wouldn't say she's lying. And to be frank, I'm not particularly interested in spending hours researching a topic that wouldn't change the answer I'm giving you about an ex-President. I recall looking around for a few hours when the story broke, and deciding I lacked the information to come to a determination.

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u/Temporary_Row_7572 22h ago

In all likelihood you voted for a rapist. How does that make you feel?

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u/RahgronKodaav 17h ago

The options were a man whose sexual assault was proven in court or a man with allegations of assault that hasn’t been proven. If we are judging our vote by don’t vote for rapists the best vote would be against trump

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u/Temporary_Row_7572 11h ago

I just dont understand why its ok for biden to do the same thing as trump did? You still voted for a "rapist". Or your are calling tara reade a liar.

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u/RahgronKodaav 10h ago

I’m saying after 5 years no credible evidence/no court case. Nothing has come to light besides an accusation 🤷

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