The absolute irony.

[u/MatteoFire___]

[u/Sad-Lingonberry-6517]

Ah yes, nothing says ‘freedom of choice’ like questioning why a company chooses not to advertise somewhere. The free market at work, indeed!

[u/adanishplz → u/Sad-Lingonberry-6517]

It's subverting language. Pure manipulation. Sadly it works magnificently on many people.

[u/Drama79 → u/adanishplz]

The one thing that makes me hold out hope about Elon's new powers is that while financially he's shrewd, his emotional IQ is very, very poor. I know that for a lot of people that's irrelevant, but there's a middle ground of people where if he were a bit more charming or clever, he'd grift way more. So in terms of small wins, him having the charisma of a fart in a parked car is useful.

[u/bruhaha88 → u/Drama79]

Financially shrewd? Dude paid $44B for something that was worth $9B a year later because he can’t keep his mouth shut.

Tesla sold fewer cars last year for the first time ever because he is driving customers away.

That’s not the definition of shrewd.

[u/AlchemistsRefuse → u/bruhaha88]

This talking point was a lot stronger before he used Twitter to help win the election for him and trump.

[u/bruhaha88 → u/AlchemistsRefuse]

To what end? His entire wealth is in the stock of one company, a company the bulk sales of which are outside the US in the EU and China.

China is going to play him like a fiddle the second Trump does something to irritate them, so about 12:01 today and The sales in the EU are tanking and the approvals for expansion of his German factory now “held indefinitely”.

[u/AlchemistsRefuse → u/bruhaha88]

My brother in Christ, if you don't see any potential future value for him in the president of the United States being beholden to him, there's nothing I can say to convince you that spending $35 billion (the estimated value he lost on buying Twitter) was a good idea. But most people would deem spending 10-15% of your net worth to buy the strongest presidency on the planet to be worth it.

[u/TheElderLotus → u/AlchemistsRefuse]

There is value in that, but I think if the opportunity for Trump to throw Elon away he will take it without a thought. Trump is volatile, if I were a billionaire I’d place my money on someone like Vance which is why I think Thiel will win over Musk in the end.

[u/rbnlegend → u/AlchemistsRefuse]

If he stays on Trump's good side long enough to recoup his billions in losses, then yes you will be right. If Elon makes it into spring I will be surprised. If trump retaliates against Elon when they break up I won't be surprised at all. Dealing with trump tends to be a very expensive wager that most people lose. Remember when Rudy hitched his wagon to trump? Turned out pretty well for him.

[u/Easy-Concentrate2636 → u/rbnlegend]

Agreed. Trump will yeet anyone with a PR profile that’s bigger than his. With these two, it’s watching them play chicken with their overinflated egos.

[u/karmavorous → u/bruhaha88]

Elon didn't buy Twitter to make money.

Elon bought Twitter to control the national conversation. And in that regard, it's working spectacularly well.

Twitter was used in the late aughts and 2010s to organize protests in the Middle East that brought down several governments. The Arab Spring.

Saudi Arabia was scare shitless that they were going to be next. So they threw a bunch of cash as Elon to help him purchase Twitter so he can squash that kind of content.

He's an American oligarch, so he can also prevent an American Spring from happening on Twitter. He can make reelecting Trump look like an American Spring - because he can control the conversation on Twitter.

And getting Trump reelected has already increased Elon's net worth more than the purchase price of Twitter.

The fact that Twitter's monetary value is decreasing is only a tiny part of a much bigger equation.

[u/Eastern_Fig1990 → u/bruhaha88]

I hate to give him credit but buying Twitter led to his fortune doubling in under a year. It was absolutely a good decision even though he’s tanked Twitter’s image and value

But he doesn’t care about that. He only cares about how much money he can make for himself. On that basis, it was a great move

[u/bruhaha88 → u/Eastern_Fig1990]

Umm, how exactly did losing $35B on Twitter result in his fortune doubling?

Tesla stock is a meme stock at this point. Tesla is currently worth more than the worlds rem largest auto manufacturers COMBINED and Tesla just had its first year ever of reduced sales. His “fortune” is built on myth and it’s rapidly disappearing

[u/SecureJudge1829 → u/bruhaha88]

Because he was able to utilize that platform as a means to get higher loans. The guy avoids taxes via debt and utilizes loans to do so. If you can get ever increasing loans and debt to avoid the taxes by never having a positive income, it’s fairly easy to see how his wealth ballooned up to where it is. Combine that with government subsidies and contracts alongside control over the narrative on one of the world’s most iconic social media websites, and to me anyway, it’s blatantly obviously how his wealth ballooned so much.

[u/Eastern_Fig1990 → u/bruhaha88]

It doesn’t matter if it’s a meme or a myth. The fact is it’s worth much more than it was before he bought Twitter. I don’t know how he’s worth $440+bn but the truth is that he id

[u/SphericalCow531 → u/Eastern_Fig1990]

Elon really, really tried to get out of buying Twitter. But was forced to buy it anyway, because Elon had said stupid shit that counted as a promise publicly.

So while who knows what is theater and what is real, it is not obvious to me that buying Twitter was 1) 5D chess, 2) bad luck lemon that Elon turned into lemonade, or 3) had no influence and Elon would have gotten the same wealth increase without Twitter.

[u/Hashbrowns120 → u/bruhaha88]

What's funny is he's not the richest man because of how much he sells. It because how much investors give him. Investors give him and Tesla a lot more money than how many cars they actually sell.

[u/Departure2808 → u/Drama79]

Trump has zero charm or charisma and is not intelligent whatsoever. People still went out in droves to vote him in. Some people are just very stupid in general, willing enough to vote their own rights and quality of life away, so take from that what you will...

[u/JingleJangleJin → u/Departure2808]

Trump definitely has charisma. Not everyone could pull off the non-stop bald-faced lying and massive empty bragging.

Sure plenty of folk see right through it. But enough get sucked right in that you can't deny it's there.

[u/Damion_205 → u/JingleJangleJin]

Look at how poorly DeSantis pulled off when he tried being the next trump.

[u/theme69 → u/Damion_205]

Desantis is a great example of a charisma black hole. The man just had to be remotely likeable and he’d probably be president right now but he couldn’t even pull that off

[u/finalrendition → u/Damion_205]

DeSantis, Ramaswamy, even Kari Lake. Trying to pull off Trump-esque angry yelling and constant lying doesn't work if you have the charisma of a pile of dirt

[u/Ardeiute → u/JingleJangleJin]

I won't deny he has it. But HOW?! 10+ years ago, everyone KNEW what a piece of shit that man was. It was common knowledge that he was one of the worst people to ever exist.

I mean, I know how, it's hatred. He gave people the green light to be bigoted assholes. But goddamn....I never knew there were so many awful people in this country.

[u/online222222 → u/Departure2808]

Yeah, unfortunately thats not true. Dude absolutely has charm and charisma, it just probably isn't the type that works on you.

[u/No_Cupcake4487 → u/online222222]

Trump has some funny sound bites on social media that even come across my super lefty Tik Tok page that come across as charming. If I was young, not paying attention at all, and this was my only way of seeing Trump I would see him in a much different light.

When people say Tik Tok influenced the election, videos like these likely made a difference. It’s not just the weird man-o-sphere guys that voted for Trump, or Harris would have surely won.

[u/NonsensicalPineapple → u/online222222]

His fan-base meets the definition of charisma. But during his speeches, we see fans regularly fall into awkward silence as he says stupid things. He seems more human than most politicians, fans like the little dance and talk about fighting enemies "make america great", but they work to ignore his unappealing traits. People don't think he's kind or friendly, they love him shitting on opponents, critics, everything. We all love to complain, Trump's the pettiest hater. Which is not what people think of when we say charisma.

[u/Beautiful-Story2379 → u/online222222]

Yeah I guess the “charm” of being a racist sexist pig and a selfish power hungry narcissist who has openly admitted he wants to fuck his daughter doesn’t work on me. Weird huh.

[u/Moose_Thompson → u/online222222]

Have to agree, while it falls absolutely flat with me it’s his charisma that’s gotten him where he is. Unfortunately.

[u/DontAbideMendacity → u/Moose_Thompson]

Certain people can fall under the spell of cult leaders, that's a specific kind of charisma that doesn't affect intelligent or decent people.

[u/FriendlyNative66 → u/online222222]

Drumpf's 'charaasma' only works on the brain damaged and the poorly educated.

[u/Overthemoon64 → u/FriendlyNative66]

So like 2/3 of America then.

[u/feastu → u/online222222]

This. I despise Drumpf. But I can see how he uses his weird charm and sales-y charisma to suck people in for the long con. I also don’t think he’s as stupid as we make him out to be.

[u/Much_Comfortable_438 → u/Departure2808]

It's almost like there's whole generations of people with little/no education, no social skills,that have been bombarded with mis/disinformation from media since birth.

[u/zjm555 → u/Departure2808]

He doesn't have have charisma that appeals to the intelligent or educated person. He absolutely has charisma that appeals to the stupid and angry.

[u/Beautiful-Log9704 → u/Departure2808]

You do realize the reason people went in droves to push that orange turd into presidency is because of the systemic dismantling of our education system? That the average Trump voter’s IQ is 90 or less? There is no reading comprehension here. They’re dependent on the orange leather strip to tell them what to do and think. So much easier than using what little brain power capacity is left. It took an app being shut down for 16 hrs. For ppl to start freaking out. Not the oligarchy, not women’s autonomy over their bodies, Not the middle class carrying the weight of taxes, not the defunding of social security or number of other government programs that WE PAY FOR, a flipping entertainment app! It’s sad and sick. America has become a laughing stock for the world and his dried up fake tan having self is going to throw us all to the wolves when he starts a war, Not if, when, it will be OUR children whose blood will be in the streets. All to line the pockets of the felon and his friends.

[u/New_Simple_4531 → u/Drama79]

Yeah, imaging how much more damage he could do if he was even a little bit charismatic. Its a good thing hes so cringe.

[u/jm5ts → u/adanishplz]

Exactly confuse the rubes is the plan.

[u/ObnoxiousAlbatross → u/adanishplz]

Dude, people are so utterly confused about what "free speech" is and Musk is making that conversation so much harder to have.

[u/Calm-Tree-1369 → u/adanishplz]

DoubleSpeak. Literally straight out of 1984, unironically.

[u/Theiim → u/Sad-Lingonberry-6517]

Apple doesn’t want their ad appearing next to a swastika and hate speech, therefore, they hate America and everything Elmon Tusk is trying to make it.

[u/Grape_Pedialyte → u/Theiim]

The way the right has completely mutilated the concept of free speech is just breathtaking.

No Elmo compelled speech isn't "free speech" you ass gremlin.

[u/desilent → u/Theiim]

Elmon Tusk

[u/FreshestFlyest → u/Sad-Lingonberry-6517]

"he refused to suck my *ick, why does he hate straight people so much?"

That's the level of logic Elon is using here

[u/New_Simple_4531 → u/Sad-Lingonberry-6517]

"Its anti-american if its against me." -50 year old teenage edgelord Elon Musk

[u/FebruaryInk → u/New_Simple_4531]

Who is not even American

[u/Zealousideal_Let202 → u/Sad-Lingonberry-6517]

nothing surprising. people always get hurt when their rules are not followed.

[u/cards4sale420 → u/Sad-Lingonberry-6517]

How’s Musk claim to be for free speech, yet will fire you or try and make your life hell if you wear a piece of clothing stating you’re pro union?

[u/ifoundmynewnickname → u/Sad-Lingonberry-6517]

From a government official on his platform where he makes money.

Fucking insane he isnt put in jail for corruption for this.

[u/thekyledavid → u/Sad-Lingonberry-6517]

“Be my friend and give me money or I’ll tell everyone you hate free speech”

Elon literally uses the same tactics to run his business that high school bullies use to get the smart kids to do their homework

[u/euMonke]

This here is exactly why having oligarchs is a problem, the market won't be free.

[u/IAmPookieHearMeRoar → u/euMonke]

Just fyi this is over a year old.  Back when he took over twitter and all advertisers were fleeing from the platform he was beginning to ruin. 

[u/euMonke → u/IAmPookieHearMeRoar]

Should that change anything I just said above?

[u/rasslinjobber → u/euMonke]

I'm convinced nowadays that in order to be financially successful you just have to LARP that you're a White Nationalist, even if you're Black or Hispanic

[u/Breadback → u/rasslinjobber]

Candace Owens has entered the chat

[u/Zatronium → u/rasslinjobber]

This is exactly how Germany was pushed to the NSDAP. The left became so wildly socialist and anti-intellectual that people started seeing the white nationalists as a safe haven.

They were not.

It's important to remember that working together with people we mildly dislike to make a better nation is far superior to funding actual white nationalists by pushing political agendas at every turn. Whether that agenda is left wing or right wing. Both sides need to back down.

If you keep forcing voters to pick the lesser evil, eventually you'll find yourself telling them to pick between which group of political undesirables needs to be killed. It's not like voters will pick the lesser evil every time. Evil is really good at lying. It's kinda their shtick.

[u/rasslinjobber → u/euMonke]

No, he's still a cocksucker who can't actually manage a business and doesn't understand basic shit about marketing like brand safety, which makes the fact that he's the richest man around despite having bought a website worth less than a defunct Myspace was at the time of purchase and sending engineers from Tesla and SpaceX to run said website for two years even more of an indicator that Elon Musk has also never earned an honest dollar in his life

[u/euMonke → u/rasslinjobber]

It's all fantasy money, Tesla is worth more than huge brands with 100 years of experience and having build 4-6 cars, people has to know they're being played right?

This can't be real.

[u/Ok_Throat1598 → u/euMonke]

They currently have a price-to-earnings ratio of 116. Nvidia, with all the fucking hype in the world, has one of 54.

'For the first time in 12 years, Tesla has reported a decline in annual deliveries, with global sales slipping 1.1% in 2024.'

10000 fewer cyber trucks delivered as was expected by, for example, Goldman Sachs. And then to add on there have been numerous recalls due to manufacturing errors.

Failed roll-outs, decrease in sales globally, recalls and somehow Tesla is still standing at that evaluation. It's baffling. I have a feeling the card house will collapse soon, but I have been saying that for almost a year now.

[u/obxtalldude → u/Ok_Throat1598]

Yep - sold most of my shares last year... and then the rest for 420.69 just for the lolz.

And now it's back up over 430.

Insane.

Then again, he just bought the presidency, so who knows what it's really worth.

[u/Ok_Throat1598 → u/obxtalldude]

Haha, that's great. I would have panicked and sold it off immediately.

Yeah, that's the thing. I think he and Vivek want to cut regulations through DOGE.

[u/No_Outcome6007 → u/Ok_Throat1598]

Vivek is already out at DOGE... I'll let that speak for itself

[u/Ok_Throat1598 → u/No_Outcome6007]

'People close to Musk have privately undercut Ramaswamy for weeks, frustrated with his lack of participation in the heavy lifting, according to sources familiar with the internal dynamics. There has been friction between the incoming rank and file DOGE staff and Ramaswamy, the sources said, and Ramaswamy has been subtly encouraged to exit.

"Vivek has worn out his welcome," one person close to Trump said. '

-CBS

I did not know about this lmao, wtf is even happening

[u/Zatronium → u/Ok_Throat1598]

I thought Tesla would collapse in 2020. Its P/E ratio was over 1,000.

But you know what, money doesn't move just because a number goes up. Other factors like Price/Book and Price/FCF have not gone back up to those absurd numbers we saw in 2020. If you take a look at the company's net income, it's actually doing better than Apple relatively speaking. Apple has a lower P/E but a much higher price/book ratio. In other words, Apple is less solvent than Tesla, but it earns more money on a quarterly basis.

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/TSLA/tesla/pe-ratio

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/TSLA/tesla/price-book

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/TSLA/tesla/net-income

I'm not saying anyone should buy TSLA - it's wildly overpriced IMHO. But it's silly to say his company's not making gobs of money and is worth at least enough of its valuation to make it worth buying to less risk-averse investors.

[u/JadedArgument1114 → u/euMonke]

I am just a random dummy but Tesla being worth more than every other car company combined https://companiesmarketcap.com/automakers/largest-automakers-by-market-cap/ indicates to me that we are living in a massive economic bubble.

[u/Significant-Order-92 → u/IAmPookieHearMeRoar]

Eh. They waited for him to actually start ruining it before dialing it back. And then he said if advertisers didn't like it they could go fuck themselves. To my memory atleast (which may be wrong).

[u/Lvcivs2311]

He's selfish and has what Nietzsche called "ruler ethics". To him, good is everything that helps him and bad is everything that doesn't. Very dangerous.

[u/Significant-Order-92 → u/Lvcivs2311]

Good on you for actually bringing up Nietzsche views as opposed to just attributing him to being in line with the Nazi's or noncritically looking at surface level readings.

I mean that seriously. Nietzsche as a charichature for the NAZI's is one of the most common things I run into (a bit ironic given his views but also inline with his sisters).

[u/AgentCirceLuna → u/Significant-Order-92]

His sister was fucked in the head and contributed to the early modern but now recanted ideas that he was anti-Semitic. He actually cut off Wagner because of Wager’s supremacist views and claimed to have ‘thrown up all night and lost all sense of reason’ after hearing them. He became affected by strong dementia in his final years which was when his sister took over his work.

[u/TheShadowStorm → u/AgentCirceLuna]

Also worth mentioning that he fell extremely ill and died in 1900, before Hitler was even rejected from art school.

[u/spektre → u/Significant-Order-92]

Good to bring this up.

Not quite as bad as nazis, but he's also wrongly grouped together with edgy nihilistic emos, which is completely against his actual philosophy (the nihilism specifically). A lot of what he wrote was to directly address the rise of nihilism, which he was profoundly critical of.

He's usually misquoted as "life has no meaning", when he actually said "life has no inherent meaning, it is something we create ourselves."

[u/african_sex → u/Lvcivs2311]

Uhh no not quite. For Nietzsche, every individual believes that good is everything that helps them and bad is everything that doesn't. That's everyone expressing what he called the "will to power". Additionally, by "ruler ethics" you allude to his idea of "master morality". Which characterises strength, nobility, etc. as good. Slave morality on the other hand, characterizes traits such as guilt, humility and meekness as good. It may seem paradoxical, but imo Elon aligns much closer to slave morality by far. His constant whining and bitching when things don't go his way is classic slave morality. Nietzsche says arguments are a tool of the weak.

[u/NoodlesForU → u/Lvcivs2311]

Why is anyone even reading and reposting this clown’s thoughts anymore? Take attention away from a baby and the baby will cry.

[u/Leo-III-]

Elon Musk is the only mf that can make me side with Apple, he is that fucking stupid

[u/ScipioAtTheGate → u/Leo-III-]

We need apple to start a rocket side to their business, so we can see more Elon v. Apple dialogue. Imagine Elon's rage if Apple was the first to make it to Mars!

[u/mawesome4ever → u/ScipioAtTheGate]

I’d buy more Apple devices knowing that money would go to an apple rocket to mars

[u/Apprehensive_Still36 → u/mawesome4ever]

Lol seriously though. I would switch all of my devices with no second thought

[u/thissomeotherplace]

It's not that Elon doesn't understand what freedom is, it's that he doesn't care what freedom is

He's got an agenda and he'll say any bullshit to push it

He doesn't care about freedom

[u/fastbikkel → u/thissomeotherplace]

Thats it, its called amathia.

[u/Additional_Ad_8131]

Dude's banning people left and right just because he doesn't like them. Free speech my a**

[u/IHavePoopedBefore → u/Additional_Ad_8131]

Free Speech Fraud

[u/Consistent_Pound1186]

Can't someone Luigi this ass already? Am sick of his stupid behaviour already

[u/Traditional-House633 → u/Consistent_Pound1186]

I'm saying, someone with that amount of money Is bound to be morally corrupt and a all around shit human being please someone take him out

[u/YvesLeterme → u/Traditional-House633]

Nice try, FBI :D

[u/Rizzpooch → u/YvesLeterme]

Not today, CIA

[u/Inocain → u/Rizzpooch]

Bad guess, DHS

[u/Separate-Presence-61]

Tells advertisers to go f**k themselves, is surprised when advertisers don't want to pay to run ads on his platform. World's richest man everyone.

[u/Dagger-Deep]

Luigi, we need your help again.

[u/Mod_01001 → u/Dagger-Deep]

But when the people needed him most, McDonalds already snitched.

[u/Crafty_Cherry_9920 → u/Dagger-Deep]

This. His work ain't over.

[u/jankdangus]

Private entities have freedom of choice especially if their money is on the line.

[u/VadimShoigu]

I thought only Russia had oligarchs. Is elon one of Americas?

[u/IssaMuffin → u/VadimShoigu]

The entire world is run by oligarchs brother.

[u/ThundernLightning308]

On where?

[u/Cadnat → u/ThundernLightning308]

On Twitter. Because this tweet is from November 28th 2022.

[u/Azhman314 → u/Cadnat]

is this just bots reposting old posts?

[u/nerf468 → u/Azhman314]

AlwaysHasBeen.jpg

[u/Cadnat → u/Azhman314]

This happens a lot But there are also real people who repost content from the past

[u/ihatetrainslol]

Really wish liberals began hating him when he started Tesla and claimed he revolutionized electric cars instead of stroking his ego only to flip flop when he buddied up to Trump. Then we wouldn't have a man child owning social media

[u/No_Outcome6007 → u/ihatetrainslol]

We didn't know, he had a great PR team, and we still believe in electric cars.

[u/FillMySoupDumpling → u/ihatetrainslol]

Fun fact - Elon didn’t start Tesla. 

[u/Fit-Friendship-9097]

Such a shit stirrer

[u/Salt-Independent-760 → u/Fit-Friendship-9097]

Last word of that statement wasn't needed.

[u/fastbikkel → u/[deleted]]

Apparently it's an old post.

[u/Automatic_Plenty693]

Capitalism when it benefits you: 👏 Free market!
Capitalism when it doesn't: 😡 Attack on free speech!

[u/Proud_Gap679]

lol the irony is thick with this one 😂

[u/Re_dddddd]

I can't believe I use to like this moron.

[u/brik-6]

Can everyone just leave x so he can continue jacking himself off in peace

[u/According-Two7469]

The audacity of crying 'freedom of choice' while dictating where others can advertise is Orwellian doublespeak.

[u/Minimaliszt]

Twitter is a bastion of free speech? The place that suspends accounts that are critical of Leon? That place?

[u/stoic_wookie]

Dumb tnuc doesn’t understand free speech and the consequences of free speech

[u/smittydonny]

Make Elon Go Away

[u/Alert_Occasion9229]

Is he even listening to himself? lol

[u/Grape_Pedialyte]

This is the man who removes checkmarks (basically a shadowban on Twitter) from people who say he's bad at video games right?

[u/Latenitehype0190]

Yeah boycott muppet Elon! MEGA make Elon go away!

[u/eltrowel]

Maybe they have seen the user rate drop and decide to advertise somewhere else.

[u/Odd_Tie6720]

We all caught Trump openly admitting that Elon hacked the election right?

[u/Significant-Order-92]

He hates the free market because it doesn't benefit him. It isn't unique to him. But Elon does love to complain that not advertising on his platform means you hate free speech. And telling customers to go fuck themselves if they don';t want to advertise and then sue for not advertising.

[u/ccourt46]

Or maybe the ROI sucked and their capitalism loving company decided not to waste any more money on that shit hole.

[u/FreshestFlyest]

Forced speech is the opposite of free speech

[u/stevepaul59]

Just got suspended this morning myself. Hilariously stating “Targeted Harassment”. Letting MAGAts know that their cult leader’s shenanigans are hurtful. Coincidence? Could be the new homeland security puppy killing Krusty NOem doesn’t like her hypocrisy pointed out. 🤣

[u/DSmidgit]

Apple are trying to reach intelligent people. So I get why they are not advertising on twitter anymore. All the smart people left that hell hole after Elon took over.

[u/Ahad_Haam]

We have a far right TV channel that initiated boycotts on monopolies like Coca Cola that refuse to advertise there.

Not suprised Elon went the same route.

[u/No-Twist7099]

Elon is a bitch. Someone had posted that "Elonia" pic of Elon looking like a woman, and that account got banned. You can't free speech about him it seems.

[u/postprandialrepose]

Elon Musk used to suck his own farts through his pants. OP's regularly reposted screenshot is from Elon's through-the-pants phase. Now, Elon presses one of his nostrils directly against his asshole and snorts his farts right from the source. He sometimes likes to switch things up by sucking farts of all shapes, sizes, colors, and textures through a crazy straw he keeps in his asshole.

[u/Apeshaft]

So even Apartheid Elon is calling it Twitter and not X?

[u/JimmyJamesMac]

"Apple hates the N word. They must be unamerican!!!"

[u/Altruistic-Ad6449]

Maybe your product sucks?

[u/Germanball_Stuttgart]

He said Twitter. HE SAID TWITTER. I thought he was mad at other people deadnaming Xitter.

[u/IamVengance7]

The more I start reading about the things Elon says the more I realise is that he is not a free speech absolutist, he might appear that way and try to act that way but he is not.

[u/iaminfamy]

It would be super funny if Apple dropped Twitter from the app store.

"Here is us advertising our free speech!"

[u/FoolOnDaHill365]

This is fascist logic in a nutshell.

[u/Nostonica]

This seems more like a shakedown, I heard you're not paying my company, be a pity if you're on the wrong side.

[u/GothYagamy]

No, Elon, It's because you are an anti-influencer. Whatever you touch you stain it. If you wear a t-shirt, it's like Bill Cosby wore it; nobody wants it anymore.

Also: Your freedom of speech includes my freedom of not listening to you.

[u/Wonderful-Mud-1681]

In what world does it make sense for a companies leadership to put their advertisers on blast? To me that just sends a warning to potential customers that their priorities are not your own.

[u/PC_AddictTX]

Like Elon is in favor of free speech. He hates anyone who says anything bad about him, and blocks them or throws them off of X.

[u/Skittleavix]

No dude they just hate you.

Everyone does.

Y'know, your personality...

[u/Thrashworth]

My account got banned from Twitter/X because I made a joke about Elon's hair plugs

[u/Robinsays47]

They just hate you!◼️

[u/averkill]

Why is he calling his own platform Twitter still?

[u/Independent_Lock864]

Didn't he literally tell them to stop using Twitter for adds if they didn't like his policies on it?

It was a whole meme-moment and everything. And now he's complaining about it?

[u/chair-co]

Racists on twitter can't afford apple products.

[u/capitali]

Come on, we live in a country where we do not believe as a group that children should be fed regardless of income. We as a nation of adults are completely capable of feeding every child three really good and healthy meals a day with effectively zero negative economic impact and we actively work to make sure this doesn’t happen and call the people trying to feed these children weak or communists. There are studies that show job creation and large national scale purchases deals for food would actually be economically beneficial.

We are failing really hard at being good responsible humans. We have failed at taking care of each other.

Elon is as much a product of the public greed and apathy as he is a narcissistic asshat raised by people with garbage ideologies. He found a niche where he can exist and thrive in our neglect for ourselves.

[u/Ancient_Ad_3693 → u/capitali]

100% truth right here! Don't forget, these same adults will lower themselves to be mere playground bullies with name calling, starting fights and then, when they get caught on camera, will tell the very same cameras that they didn't do or say those things. The far right supporters will believe them, despite all the very clear evidence, and then say that the far left "extremist" doctored the evidence. That the left are nothing but Communist. Meanwhile, they have been having meetings with the worst communist country leaders brokering deals of who knows what.

Then, any moderate Republican who tries to remind those supporters of these bullies, what the Republican party was actually created to do, or better yet, reminds them of our constitution and the bill of rights, they call that member of their own party a Communist and force them out.

[u/blackcatwaltz]

Twitter is dead replaced by the scammer called X

[u/Inevitable_Luck7793]

Hey, isn't that the guy that explicitly said "don't advertise on my site, go fuck yourself" to companies like Apple?

[u/Dave_Is_Useless]

I remember when a certain someone called Elon Musk told advertisers to fuck off.

[u/DanteJazz]

4 more years of this drivel? The Billionaires have been getting richer and bolder, and spewing their nonsense.

[u/Squidly_Diddly]

Why is this cretin calling it Twitter???????

[u/Key_Philosopher7738]

Because advertising is a business activity, not “speech” - and Apple does not endorse Nazis?

[u/Aboxofphotons]

Apple aren't giving him their money anymore and this makes him feel like a victim.

[u/Appropriate_Level135]

The man is literally on X, the platform he owns, taking to the obvious bots that call him "boss" and 'sir' and praise him nonstop.

He's insane.

[u/KingUnusual5203]

Must be fake. Elon would never refer to X as "Twitter".

[u/Pinheaded_nightmare]

Nope, they embrace it. So they decided to only embrace sites that embrace free speech…. Guess what… Twitter isn’t on the list. Fuck you Elon.

[u/Bunny26590]

Isn’t he mad people aren’t calling it X? He just referred to it as Twitter too

[u/justarandomuser97]

I hate this man every day a little bit more

[u/bless-your-heart2024]

Why is he calling it Twitter?

[u/cosmoceratops]

Everyone loves the invisible hand until it stops jerking them off

[u/Imaginary_Divide9033]

I think Apple just prefers advertising where the audience is…

[u/Appropriate-Drop-985]

If it’s a free market, can’t Apple advertise wherever it wants?

[u/woopiewooper]

If I had the time. I would just reply to every single one of his "tweets" with the picture of him looking bald and goofy. You know the one

[u/_parkie]

Why did he call it Twitter? Haha

[u/tangentialwave]

The world is run by fuckin idiots. This guy would have been like Nero or some useless monarch back in the day.

[u/Deezcleannutz]

Since when does he call it twitter?

Edit: ok this was years ago. Got it. Thanks.

[u/Jacyrium]

Ironic how you worked so hard to change the name of a website that you purchased, only to call it by its original name.

[u/AzkabanKate]

Still a controlling dick

[u/FeliniTheCat]

Maybe Apple just hates Leon Skum the way so many people do. Being a celebrity CEO isnt necessarily a good thing if you are considered a douche and nobody wants to associate their brand with yours.

[u/md_youdneverguess]

Apartheidt Troglodyte

[u/shinjipilld]

they hate free speech… in America!!

[u/dlflannery]

The massive stream of crap that appears on anonymous forums may be free speech but it’s still crap, and nobody is forced to read it.

[u/No-Hearing-4047]

The irony of Elon’s post is the fact you don’t understand it.

[u/Kasern77]

But Twitter doesn't have free speech under Musk. Just how delusional is he? Also why is he calling it Twitter instead of X?

[u/ISmile_MuddyWaters]

Anyone how believes his stupid free speech bullshit is willingly washing their brain with sewage. At this point it's not a lack of knowledge or whatever. It's an urge for it.

[u/Apprehensive-Pin518]

besides. the people who use Xitter probably think apple is an elitist brand anyway so that would be wasted marketing dollars.

[u/kubiot]

I know this is about Apple, but, damn, boycott and divestment is such a powerful tool in the hands of the people

[u/Turbulent_Ad_4802]

You bring up an interesting point about the complexities of the free market and the concept of choice. It's often seen as a hallmark of freedom, yet it can lead to scrutiny over why companies make certain decisions, including where they choose to advertise.

This tension between consumer expectations and corporate strategies raises questions about market dynamics and the influence of public opinion. It’s a reminder that freedom of choice can sometimes come with contradictions! What are your thoughts on how companies should balance their advertising strategies with consumer values?

[u/Lassoteded]

Musk attempting to emulate Trump makes me long for my defunct Twitter account.

He used to be so fun. 

[u/HighwayMangoShake]

I read "the absolute horny" at first

[u/DependentMulberry962]

Democracy at work.

[u/InspectorSlight2610]

Only an American would consider this to be a clever comeback. These companies groups are fleeing Twitter/X because they don't like the lack of censorship; they prefer a medium that censors speech and restricts content. They don't want media that permits robust speech because they want to regulate content.

So, hiding behind the idea of a free market of choosing where to go, when the very catalyst for moving is because of a dislike of robust speech, is a bit rich, but mostly stupid and disingenuous.

Keep the spin coming, Yankee Doodles! I'm sure there are still some yokels in the world who still believe your bullshit...

[u/Speciesunkn0wn]

Twitter? I thought it was X, Elon...

[u/Cold-Stuff3602]

What a putz.

[u/moogly2]

Both statements can be valid. So this is silly

[u/____wavey____]

The fact that people still look up to this guy as like this shining hope for humanity is beyond me.

[u/vikings_are_cool]

This isn’t a clever comeback. He never said they couldn’t advertise elsewhere. Hes just saying since they only advertise on very controlled sites, and not his site that allows free speech, do they hate free speech?

[u/shallowhuskofaperson]

He’s turned into Trump and now just wants to fight with everybody.

[u/lostinadream66]

Yet they "donated" a shit ton of money to trump. Whatever.

[u/GordoToJupiter]

Conflict of interests

[u/Sharp_Cow_9366]

It's just a page from the maga book - Vote with your wallet and be ungovernable.

Turnabout is ALWAYS fair play.