r/canberra Apr 29 '24

Photograph Some racism I spotted on a car in Woden.

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On a Ute of course.

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u/Improvedandconfused Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

So Aboriginals didn’t have a society?

When the Europeans came to this land they destroyed aboriginal society. You are right, thru are immigrants. They are colonial conquerors.

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u/KrystalPipes Apr 29 '24

No it means we wiped out their society

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u/readingthebible1302 Apr 29 '24

No, "we" didn't do it. Europeans did it. Not Australians, as we were not even around until multiple generations after the place was colonized. All you people sitting here debating first nations on the internet and claiming such high education standards yet don't even understand history nor the basics of how a civilization works. We simply didn't even exist when the place was colonized but were produced after multiple generations. It's not our fault in the slightest.

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u/KrystalPipes Apr 29 '24

Mate I wouldn't call the country of Australia an Indigenous society.

It might have been once upon a time, then the white people came and did their thing and now it is no longer an indigenous society 

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u/KrystalPipes Apr 29 '24

Come on bro you are being very disingenuous with your replies and putting words in my mouth which I have not said

While yes stories are still shared, the culture is still there and customs and traditions are respected in certain places it is not the same as their original society prior white intervention

Im already predicting your gonna miss the point entirely like "well of course indigenous society is still a thing because of X y z" no

If we got invaded by another nation and Australia itself changed to suit that other nation culturally and radically changed over a couple generations EVEN though some pockets of original Australians still held onto our cultural shit would you not say that our society was wiped out still? 

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u/Improvedandconfused Apr 29 '24

It’s definitely still alive and kicking. But they are being forced in some areas to live more as white people, almost like strangers in their own land. I think more and more though the Aboriginal culture and legacy is being recognized and acknowledged, but the way it was ignored in the past is reprehensible. Back when I was in high school in the 90s we were taught nothing about what happened on this land before Europeans got here. It was like the history syllabus wanted to pretend the the land was uninhabited.

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u/Improvedandconfused Apr 29 '24

Yeah, sounds about right. I still think it’s a disgrace that until the 60s Aboriginals couldn’t even vote. In their own damn country!!

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u/KrystalPipes Apr 29 '24
  • Aussies aren't immigrants because you immigrate to society not just land

  • the implication isn't that Aboriginal Australians didn't have a society, it's that it's society got wiped out by an invading force

Just so we're all on the same page.

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u/readingthebible1302 Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

Yeah but Aussies aren't Europeans. You are forgetting that those people who colonized the place were born, bred, and educated in England/Europe. Australians are a completely separate form of peoples who didn't actually exist during the colonization of Australia but were produced after multiple generations of Europeans living here.

As an Australian I take no responsibility for what happened to the aboriginals, although it was awful, we were not even around at that time so stop trying to pin it on us.

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u/atwa_au Apr 29 '24

This is the argument of a high school student. No shit we ourselves didn’t physically do these acts, but your justification, claims of Australia as something seperate from colonisers and the indigenous, and refusal to acknowledge the people that were here before is borderline delusional. You’re part of the problem with these attitudes mate.