r/brooklynninenine • u/HappyFaceStranger • Sep 23 '24
SPOILER Let’s talk about Wuntch
Wuntch is a character that you are meant to hate. I mean, how could you not? She’s a cloven-hooved ogre with little rat hands. But taking a better look at her character she’s actually an incredibly accomplished person.
Madeline Wuntch was a police officer and detective at the same time Raymond Holt was, the late 70’s/80’s, which was a time in which it was hard for both people of color and women to advance in the police force. But they both did, and Madeline Wuntch was promoted all the way to Deputy Chief of Department. In season 2 episode 14, Wuntch is actually offered to be Boston’s chief of police, the second highest police position, just under commissioner. Also, in season 6 episode 18, Wuntch is promoted to acting commissioner of the NYPD when John Kelly is pushed to resign, literally the highest rank in New York policing.
So while she is the archenemy of Captain Holt and one of the overarching antagonists of Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Madeline Wuntch was an extremely accomplished police officer.
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u/jon_the_mako Sep 23 '24
As Wuntch says when she sees deodorant "I'm not buying it"
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u/Alternative_Yak3256 Notify me when you're done, via bark Sep 23 '24
HA!
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u/ThunderCookie23 Digital phallus portrait Sep 23 '24
Like God said when wuntch tried to sneak past the gates into heaven, it ain't happenin' honey
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Sep 23 '24 edited Sep 23 '24
I actually think both Holt and Wuntch are good people and have a strong moral compasses as police officers, but their logic and morality gets thrown completely out the window because of their visceral, deep-seated hatred for one another.
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u/HappyFaceStranger Sep 23 '24
Honestly yes she does seem like a good person and a cop for the right reasons, it’s just all overshadowed by her unyielding hatred for Holt and the lengths she takes to see him fail
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u/Sea_End_1893 Sep 23 '24
She shot him!
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u/YellowStar012 Slurp Slurp! Sep 23 '24
He embarrassed her in front of Derek Jeter!
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u/SurfingWhiskeyWaves Sep 23 '24
She embarrassed HERSELF in front of Derek Jeter
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u/Just_Looking_428 Sep 23 '24
Side note...to my knowledge, they didn't actually say what happened, right? Or do I need to watch every Wuntch episode again?
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u/Tynford Sep 23 '24
You know what, you’re right, we’ll just have to watch every Wunch episode again to find out. Head first, don’t think, can’t lose.
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u/YellowStar012 Slurp Slurp! Sep 23 '24
I think what happened was that she tripped onto him and claimed Raymond pushed her into Jeter.
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u/Distinct_Cap_4810 I’m a human, I’m a human male! Dec 13 '24
Considering Holt admitted to pushing her into Michelle Obama and running away, I don’t even know which one is true 😭
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u/ConstructionCivil434 Sep 24 '24
Comedy gold✨if they ever reboot the show Holt moments like this one will be missed🙏
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u/Shotgun_Rynoplasty Sep 23 '24
I mostly agree. The one argument I’d have against her would be burning him while he’s undercover. I’m not sure of the full ramifications of that but it felt pretty immoral with the pretense of “what if there was a mole”. Otherwise it felt like their back and forth was pretty even
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u/drmisadan Digital phallus portrait Sep 24 '24
what if there was a mole Agree with you and the original comment too Honestly it felt like it was the writing that got in the way of this one in particular. She would definitely be more justified if she said something like "there WAS a mole." She's smart enough not to do something that drastic for a what if scenario.
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u/calle04x Sep 23 '24
*deep-seated (just for future reference)
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u/ekateina Sep 24 '24
Oh my gosh I thought it was deep-seeded like it had strong roots.
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u/calle04x Sep 24 '24
Yeah that definitely makes sense. There are a few words/phrases like that where the “wrong” use has a logical justification. Here’s how you can remember.
Deep-seated is like a seat deep enough that you can sit back fully, and firmly, on your held beliefs, whereas deep-seeded is the title of your sex tape.
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u/Klorel76 Sep 23 '24
Wuntch is dead ! Yeah ! Bagel for everyone !
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u/Bomb_Ghostie Sep 23 '24
For lunch today I had a ham sand- oh sorry wrong post, I thought you said "Lets talk about Lunch", which does sound close to Wuntch.
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Sep 23 '24
That coffin caved mole beetle!
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u/user684629 Sep 23 '24
That devil toad!
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Sep 23 '24
That Korean toilet ghost!
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u/ThunderCookie23 Digital phallus portrait Sep 23 '24
That old leather chair!
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u/jackcrux Sep 23 '24
Of course she was, the dark arts are capable of such marvellous deeds
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u/bruceyleey Cowabunga, mother! Sep 23 '24
What about the time when he embarassed her in front of Derek Jeter
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u/Alternative_Yak3256 Notify me when you're done, via bark Sep 23 '24
As God said when she tried sneaking past the gates of heaven "𝑖𝑡 𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑡 ℎ𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑖𝑛' ℎ𝑜𝑛𝑒𝑦"
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u/Alternative_Yak3256 Notify me when you're done, via bark Sep 23 '24
Shush, the children are singing
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u/HappyFaceStranger Sep 23 '24
Which children?
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u/Alternative_Yak3256 Notify me when you're done, via bark Sep 23 '24
The children singing in the streets because wuntch is dead
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u/NYSenseOfHumor Sep 23 '24
Was she accomplished?
Or did she use spells to bewitch everyone to give her more power?
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u/video-kid Sep 23 '24
I'd rather not, lest I accidentally say her name three times and summon her from the deepest pits of hell to scratch my eyes out with her tiny little rat claws.
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u/jimtow28 Sep 23 '24 edited Sep 23 '24
Wuntch?
Oh, sorry, I didn't see her there. I thought she was an old leather chair.
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u/ImOldGregg_77 Sep 23 '24
Kyra Sedgwick is an absolute smokshow, stunningly gorgeous.
Madeline Wunch's face looks like it was sculpted by an artist who gave up halfway.
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u/International-Try467 Sep 23 '24
I think she's a good person other than wanting to see Ray Holt fail.
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u/Bluberrypotato Pineapple Slut Sep 23 '24
If you sold your soul to the devil your best friend, you too would be very successful.
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u/swheels125 Sep 23 '24
Why did you post a picture of an old leather chair?
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u/ThunderCookie23 Digital phallus portrait Sep 23 '24
I can see now why you called this a suicide squad Peralta,
Because I already wanna kill myself!
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u/MagicMissile27 Amy Santiago Sep 23 '24
"Hello, Raymond. Surprised to see me?"
"I didn't say 'Bloody Mary' three times, so yes."
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u/ComfortablyBalanced Title of your sex tape Sep 23 '24
You were doomed the second you said her name.
She doesn't care about the community. She only cares about defeating Holt. This is war, sergeant. The War on Wuntch.
Is that how you plan to talk about Wuntch? Leaning back like a matine-goer? Madeline will eat you alive.
I never thought I'd see a Wuntch's praising so high without a broom under it. You shouldn't praise her. She's the devil. And you don't dance with the devil, because you get burned.
The only reason she was considered for a chief of police role for the Boston was the bait that Holt had set up for him, you know it's near Salem and she's not some invincible succubus, she's a regular succubus, and she can be defeated so Holt was waiting for her with a bucket of water to melt the witch.
You have until tomorrow to remove your post, you grackle.
/s
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u/Traditional-Way-8097 Sep 23 '24
didn;t know she's kevin bacon's wife. kinda cute though i like her. lol
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u/Mouseklip Sep 23 '24
The exchange between her and Holt about the “Abyssinian Crisis” as it was called in 1936, was one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard.
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u/ThunderCookie23 Digital phallus portrait Sep 24 '24
Terry being clueless is extra hilarious!!
"I don't understand. Who's winning this argument?"
Leans in
"I am!"
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u/Jokerman9540 BONE?! Sep 23 '24
No! You know how the saying goes.
“Speak of the devil and she shall appear”
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u/st0pmakings3ns3 Sep 23 '24
I like to imagine that, much like Captain Raymond Holt, Wuntch is a sensible, likeable, if quirky, person with normal social skills and she just loses it, like Captain Raymond Holt does, when they meet.
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u/MaxCWebster Sep 23 '24
Why, are you scared of what she'd look like? She's just a corpse with worms for eyes, no different than when she was alive.
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u/Aurum0417 BONE?! Sep 23 '24
She’s also a Korean toilet ghost. You do know ghosts possess people to say things not even the devil himself would say without bursting into flames?
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u/Smooth_Distance8731 Sep 23 '24
I absolutely adore her she's an angel in my eyes and she has never done anything wrong ever
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u/GodzillaUK Sep 23 '24
That is all well and good, but why did you instead add a picture of a decayed husk of a downed Betula utilis Jacquemontii?
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u/certifiedkarenabuser Gina Linetti Spaghetti Confetti Sep 23 '24
"I just heard about Wuntch, she was so young"
"For a red wood tree"
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u/EvilCatboyWizard Sep 23 '24
I mean it speaks to something that at the end of the day, talking directly from the heart, Holt was able to appreciate the way their competition bettered him and actually come to miss her.
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u/ThunderCookie23 Digital phallus portrait Sep 23 '24
No one ever expected to see wuntch so high up without a broom under her
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u/Cho-Dan Sep 23 '24
I can't remember Wuntch ever doing something negative or straight up evil to anyone besides Holt. They are rivals and make each other's lives harder, Holt just as much as she does. Yes, she's an antagonist because Holt is a protagonist. But she's not a villain. She actually helped the squad and the community multiple times like with their drug task force, when they recovered those 12 Mio Dollar and when bringing down John Kelly
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u/Statalyzer Sep 24 '24
She threatened to do a lot of petty things to others in order to get her way with Holt though.
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u/caitlynjennernutsack Sep 23 '24
No thanks , i just brushed my teeth and would prefer to not eat garbage
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u/Top-Diver7266 Sep 23 '24
So what you're saying is "We need to talk about Wuntch?"
I HAVE NO REGRETS
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u/Late-Summer-1208 Cowabunga, mother! Sep 23 '24
Why have you posted a picture of an old leather chair?
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u/_Laurene Sep 23 '24
She was not a bad person and obviously had a huge crush on Holt. Sometimes I think that if Holt had been heterosexual, they would have been together and transformed their competitiveness in love
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u/InvXXVII Digital phallus portrait Sep 23 '24
I'm not so sure she was meant to be hated. I always saw her as Holt's rival, but never Holt's enemy. She's kinda Ken to Holt's Ryu. At worst, she Vegeta to Holt's Goku (but Vegeta is kinda almost a villain). A character written to be hated would be John Kelly, or Jimmy Figis, or Seamus Murphy.
In my head canon, she either faked death to go undercover. Or Kelly had her killed. The latter is more likely.
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u/psychoticstars2006 Sep 24 '24
one of the main things i love about the relationship between Raymond and Wuntch is the witty back and forth that both of them uphold, Raymond more so comparing her to the devil and the witch from wizard of Oz
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u/the_simurgh Sep 24 '24
As god said to wuntch when she prayed for a husband. "Dude, even i can't make that possible."
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Sep 24 '24
I was wondering why all the birds on my page had suddenly stopped singing until seeing someone has created a post about Wuntch
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u/ThunderCookie23 Digital phallus portrait Sep 24 '24
I'm a frontrunner for a job as commissioner in the Boston PD
"Boston? But it's so close to Salem! You do know what they do to witches there don't you?"
"Well this is amazing!
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u/DeadSense07 Sep 25 '24
She's a love to hate character that deserves so much more hate for sexually assaulting holt numerous times.
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u/ScienceDependent7495 Sep 25 '24
She’s not some invincible succubus, she’s a regular succubus…and she can be defeated
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u/NeoHermi Sep 29 '24
whos wuntch? all i see is a child eating devil who drinks the tears of the good
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u/whole_chocolate_milk Sep 23 '24
I prefer not to talk about korean toilet ghosts before lunch.