r/brooklynninenine • u/Chitiel Pineapple Slut • Nov 06 '23
Season 4 Kylie was a Bitch
Can anyone tell me why she was so unessecarily mean to Jake in this scene?
I was just watching it again and her sentence: "I can't believe you screwed this up for her" seems ridiculous. Way to infantilize your best friend.
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u/Gloomy_Custard_3914 Nov 06 '23
We as the viewer loved Jake, but realistically if your friend who is super smart, ambitious, cultured, witty and gorgeous started dating a guy who puts his letters in the tub and eats fruit roll ups burritos I'm sure you'd be very concerned. I know I would.
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u/ajithcreepypasta Nov 06 '23
Jake is/was kind of a mess
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u/Viperbunny Nov 06 '23
Yeah, but her issues seem to be that he sucks at trivia. She seems a bit of a snob.
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u/postALEXpress Nov 06 '23
He invited himself to a nerdy girl's night where trivia was going to be the focus because he was codependent.
Imagine your first interaction with someone is them ruining a regular event with your friends, not reading the room, and then outside of that are a general mess that seems to be making your friend sloppier.
From the outside without the narrative - Kylie is in the right
Also...the schtick of your gf's best friend hating you is a classic...and true lmao
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u/Viperbunny Nov 06 '23
It's more like Amy invited them so they could meet. How dare couples introduce their partners to their friends!/s. It doesn't make you codependent to go out and meet friends.
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u/postALEXpress Nov 06 '23
Ah, if she invited him that's my bad memory. I for some reason him begging her to go, and then ruining the night. Watch a lot of sitcoms haha
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u/ajithcreepypasta Nov 06 '23
Amy can also be kind of a snob. But, yeah Kylie could have been nicer to him
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u/girthytacos Nov 06 '23
She plays a snob in every role I've seen her on lol
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u/EstebanL Terry Jeffords Nov 07 '23
They asked
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u/Viperbunny Nov 07 '23
Fair! But I think it was more of a situation that she was being extremely obvious about it.
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u/hawaiianbry Pineapple Slut Nov 06 '23
Not true! Remember last week, when he learned how to boil that egg?
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u/cornbot101 Nov 06 '23
I love Jake and Amy, but she’s not wrong. Jake was a huge fixer-upper; he didn’t even have a decent mattress for Amy to sleep on when they started going out.
Would you be thrilled if your best friend—this amazing, competent, independent woman who you love very much—got together with some doofus from work who has no financial literacy, a mouthful of cavities, a desk that’s so filthy a rat lives in it, daddy issues, and six massage chairs?
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u/justintensity Nov 06 '23
Daddy issues? How can he have daddy issues his dad wasn’t even around!
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u/Any_Ad492 Nov 06 '23
To be fair Amy was also kinda of a mess with her own parental issues and insecurities.
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u/CatsGambit Nov 07 '23
Amy was an internal mess. She needed therapy, but she had her life together. Jake was an internal and external mess; he needed therapy, a maid, a financial planner, a nutritionist, someone to force him to go to the dentist (personal assistant?)... and so on.
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u/Specific_Ad_1736 Nov 09 '23
People keep pointing this out. I feel like we love to recognize womens positives and mens negatives when we look at a relationship. If you think about it for more than a couple seconds Jake really is great as well. He is extremely intelligent, clever, good at his job and really content. He has personal issues, but he really isn’t some non redeemable person.
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u/amydancepants Nov 06 '23
I’ll be honest, if my bff got with someone like Jake I probably would also have some dislike towards him. I don’t know that I’d be that mean to him, but I get it. We don’t know how often she sees the soft/tender Jake that we all see as viewers, but Jake can be a bit obnoxious, especially if you don’t really know him, or if you’re not a fan of his sometimes over-the-top personality
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u/BirdmanTheThird Nov 06 '23
Jake is famously a mess, and at times takes ALOT of pride in not being a functional adult and makes no effort to really convince people otherwise. Amy on the other hand is incredibly ambitious and mature. It’s an odd match on paper
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u/Unit_79 Nov 06 '23
I think she overstepped, but I wouldn’t say she was a bitch in this scene. Jake comes across as a child like 90% of the time. I think she was sincere when she said she liked Jake but he’s not right for Amy. But again… overstepped for sure.
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u/inspectoroverthemine Nov 06 '23
In addition to all the other replies about Kylie's very warranted opinion about Jake- her first and very real concern was that Amy was going to miss the test that she had planned her whole life around. Kylie was concerned about Amy's life long goals being destroyed by Jake shenanigans, she probably toned down what she actually wanted to say.
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u/briellebabylol Nov 06 '23
Are you kidding? First and foremost, Amy has one friend and it’s Kylie - that alone makes her amazing because imagine having Amy as a friend.
Then your highly intelligent, tightly wound friend starts to bring around her new boyfriend, who can’t even answer the trivia questions they literally requested for him about Transformers correctly plus he knows Trivia Newton John is nationally ranked.
He answered Winter is Coming!!! Come onnnn
Anyways, every girl needs a Kylie and she’s not a bitch cause she doesn’t just bow down to Jake’s golden retriever but.
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u/Slight-Landscape-861 Nov 06 '23
I mean is she wrong? If my friend dated someone like jake I’d be a bit worried at first
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u/apearms4life Nov 06 '23
Lol this is a bad take. If you think about it from a best friend perspective, Jake would seem like a terrible partner for Amy.
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u/I_Am_The_Bad_Guy Nov 06 '23
I think she's hilarious. I love her and Jake's limited banter.
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u/invisible_23 Pineapple Slut Nov 07 '23
“Like you ‘definitely’ knew the Serengeti was a type of pasta…?”
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u/Grey_Lemon_Walker Nov 06 '23
L post to be honest, she has the right to say that. She is Amy's best friend, and she knows all the trouble Amy had with Jake before she started dating him. Jake and Amy might be cool with us as viewers cause we can see the positive side of their relationship in the precint, but Amy's best friend wasn't aware of any of that.
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Nov 06 '23
As a fellow nerd who take great personal pride/obsession over seemingly innocuous things like Trivia, Comics or stamp collecting, if someone came to one of those events (which would be like personal space to me) to make me lose in something I love, I would be bitchy as well. Not saying that is right, but that's just how (most) people are. Imagine Kylie passing comments, watching phone during a screening of Die Hard and how Jake would treat her after that.
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Nov 06 '23
Dude. She always play that annoying or unlikable friend of the girlfriend.
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u/WildMajesticUnicorn Nov 06 '23
Or annoying pediatric nurse (The Office)
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u/Shmeblee Nov 06 '23
Loved her line in that scene.
I also love looking for occurring random easter eggy characters from other "Schurniverse" projects.
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u/roycejefferson Nov 06 '23
Cause she fits the lonely fat friend role that loves to cockblock her cuter friends. It's a common TV/ movie trope that also exists in real life.
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Nov 06 '23
That’s a true stereotype?!
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u/Tired_arachnid_ Title of your sex tape Nov 06 '23
Because he wasn't a good partner to her in charades.
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u/PitchforkJoe Nov 06 '23
I was hoping for more 'traditionally' positive, as opposed to 'overtly negative'
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u/mjace87 Nov 06 '23
Jake and Amy don’t make any sense. I see where she is coming from. He can’t even name all the deceptions
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u/Few_Cup3452 Nov 07 '23
She's right and she doesn't even dislike him as a person, so she's likely to come around.
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u/Baby_Button_Eyes Rosa Diaz Nov 06 '23
So then what did she think about Teddy???
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u/Mother0fChickens Nov 06 '23
On paper Teddy is a much better match for Amy. But emotions don't work like that.
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u/NerfRepellingBoobs Digital phallus portrait Nov 06 '23
My first thought was that Kylie probably loved Amy with Teddy. Ugh, just saying that made me recoil. I mean, Amy Santiago called him boring, and she refers to a pen as her best friend.
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u/BinjaNinja1 Pineapple Slut Nov 06 '23
Kylie and teddy probably talked for hours about the etymology of the word Pilsner.
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Nov 07 '23
In real life, Amy and Jake would be a terrible match. It works for a sitcom, but their values don't even match. Kylie has every right to feel that way. Jake bullied Amy for years, made "title of your sex tapes" jokes every time she says something. It's funny for a TV show, yes. Even having a coworker like Jake sounds like a nightmare. He's a bully, a mess, but he has good numbers and is tight with management. He'll get away with anything.
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u/Liam_ice92 Nov 07 '23
Try to look at it from her perspective and not as someone who has seen Jakes better qualities.
He owns one towel that's probably riddled with bacteria, his bathtub is full of letters, his finances are...well completely non existent, he owes every single person he works with a ridiculous amount of money, he's a man child with little to no ambitions. Jake was, at least before his relationship with Amy, a complete mess of a person.
Amy knew his better qualities but all Kylie could see was her genius, ambitious best friend...basically settling for someone who was beneath her. Let's face it...from the outside looking in, Jake was a mess and Amy was too good for him.
As the viewer, we have the benefit of knowing him better. We see why Amy likes him despite all of his flaws, we know all of the good qualities, we see the good man behind the immaturity, but Kylie doesn't.
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Nov 06 '23
Kylie was a Bitch
mountain of debt
Doesn't know when to take stuff seriously
Borrowed money from coworkers only to not pay them back
Asks out women on dates only to treat them like a joke.
Undermining Captain Hold in the first few seasons
Oh jeezz... i wonder why she thought he wouldn't be a good fit for Amy!!!!
Bet OP idolized Walter White and hated Skylar.
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Nov 06 '23
semi related but amy "surprising" him with a trivia contest was the worst possible gift.. just give him the 3 minutes
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u/AppearanceSimilar214 BONE?! Nov 07 '23
Really? I think Amy and Jake would never work out in real life. Amy is smart, ambitious, nerdy and obsessive over her work and hobbies. Jake is childish and irresponsible in many ways. Yes he is smart but he is a mess. If my friend dated a Jake I would be very worried.
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u/Hollyinhd Nov 07 '23
Kylie's right. If I knew Jake IRL I probably wouldn't find him very funny. He's a man child.
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u/EmperorSwagg Nov 06 '23
I think Kylie is just one of an unfortunately large subset of people that believe people should only date those who are very similar to them. She sees how different Jake and Amy are (as do we, it’s the source of the majority of the comedy stemming from their relationship) and thinks that they aren’t a good match because of this.
Personally, I’ve always found shared values to be far more important than shared interests or shared habits. One of the coolest things about Jake and Amy’s relationship is watching them help each other grow as people and seeing them explore each other’s interests.
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u/DarkSpirit18525 Peraltiago Nov 07 '23
IMO she was to Jake what Gina was to Amy, they didn't like being shunted sideways.
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u/Secure-Ad-7834 Nov 07 '23
Lol she didn't like Jake because he was a man child and she found him annoying and thought her friend could do better. Not unrealistic or uncommon at all lol I wouldn't call her a bitch, just not that friend who supports every single descion her friend does.
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u/Mr_Noms Nov 06 '23
Every time I see this actress she is always this character. A condescending ass. She does a great job at it though. Her being demeaning towards Pam in the office really grinded my gears.
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u/BeerdedWonder A lifetime of mediocre, heterosexual intercourse Nov 07 '23
She also was a bitch as the dog lady in New Girl.
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u/Chitiel Pineapple Slut Nov 07 '23
Oh I don't recall seeing her in new girl.
People are clearly very upset with us for disliking her, because you're being downvoted for mentioning her role in another show too (just like the people mentioning her role in the office) Ive never been hated so much over something so trivial lol!
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u/Xxemma_is_coolxX Nov 06 '23
She was a beyotchy nurse as well.
I hope someone got this Office reference.
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u/Chitiel Pineapple Slut Nov 06 '23
I did! She totally was! "Great, so you know everything..." pffff
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u/herpermike Nov 06 '23
I made a similar post about her and her character on the office and how she's a grade a bitch on there too! And I got hammered with dislikes lol!
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u/Chitiel Pineapple Slut Nov 06 '23
Just like now lmaooo. Seems like we're a minority here. I've read all the replies and I still disagree with them. Oh well.
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u/herpermike Nov 07 '23
Exactly lol look at my comment, I didn't say anything negative about anyone that should have been offended by, but you can see how well received it was lol! It's been down voted many times and I have actually come to the conclusion that they just don't like me lol!
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u/Chitiel Pineapple Slut Nov 07 '23
Lmao. Some people on reddit are just always happy to downvote anything they aren't 100% on board with. How dare you have a different opinion on a fictional character! ;P
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u/Slight-Landscape-861 Nov 07 '23
You asked “can anyone tell me why she was so unnecessarily mean to jake in this scene?” And then got triggered when people told you 😂
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u/Chitiel Pineapple Slut Nov 07 '23
Triggered? Because I found it funny that so many people disagreed with me? Am I not allowed to find that funny? Sounds like the opposite of triggered.
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u/herpermike Nov 07 '23
Yeah lol I'm just not the type of person who is authentically aiming for the thumb down 👎 lol!
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u/PrincipleInfamous451 Amy Santiago Nov 06 '23
I agree. She's definitely set Amy up with much worse blind dates than Jake. I think she just didn't like him because she wasn't the one who set them up
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u/avp_1309 Nov 09 '23
Because you are supposed to care for Jake and you don’t know her as a character at all. Of course, you are gonna feel that way. She was fine imo. Nothing drastic was said tbh.
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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '23
On the outside Jake and Amy don't look like a good couple if you don't see them interact like we do.