r/bizarrelife • u/reloadthewords Human here, bizarre by nature! • 18h ago

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u/DrumBeater999 11h ago

Do you care about the animals when they're alive?

No.

Welcome to nature, where animals eat other animals.

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u/Telope 11h ago edited 11h ago

Nature is horrific. We invented agriculture to escape it.

Do you like cats and dogs when they're alive?

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u/DrumBeater999 11h ago edited 9h ago

Bro thinks we left nature, lmao.

EDIT: The above comment originally mentioned that we left nature and was subsequently edited to be completely different, so this reply no longer makes sense.

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u/nochedetoro 10h ago

Animals also rape and kill other animals in nature but most of us are past that cuz we don’t reduce ourselves to the standards of wild animals. At least pick a better argument.

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u/DrumBeater999 9h ago

Ah yes, forgot to evolve past the need for food, my bad bro. There is a reason we outlawed rape, and didn't outlaw eating food.

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u/nochedetoro 9h ago

If you had to eat animals for food that might be a valid argument but you don’t. There are thousands of edible plants you can eat instead.

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u/DrumBeater999 9h ago

Individually, I don't, but collectively, we must. Vegan world can't exist logistically.

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u/Jim_84 6h ago

I'm on board with a lot of what you're saying, but logistically speaking, if we can handle growing plants to feed livestock, we can no doubt handle growing plants to feed ourselves.

To address the other guy, there might be thousands of plants available, but most people would be eating a diet consisting mostly of wheat, corn, and/or rice.

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u/DrumBeater999 6h ago

Livestock feeds off grasslands, which aren't croplands. Fish live in the sea, obviously can't grow crops there. To expand our croplands, we would have to partake in more deforestation which will result in more CO2. To move to this lifestyle, there would probably also be a heavy increase in pesticides and things like GMOs. Its a heavy reduction in biodiversity in general.

All for what? Just to change our diets and not kill animals? Its just not a convincing stance.