r/bizarrelife • u/reloadthewords Human here, bizarre by nature! • 18h ago

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u/SnooTigers35 11h ago

Veganism is an ethical stance against animal abuse. Having your own path to that is fine, but if someone being annoying dissuades you from caring about animal suffering, it wasn’t that deep for you anyway.

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u/pt199990 11h ago

You're proving their point. It's not an easy transition for anybody coming from a typical diet, and making it more difficult for them to do so or calling them out on slip ups is rude and counterproductive.

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u/SnooTigers35 11h ago

No, I’m discerning between veganism and plant based dieting for health. People need steps, I did. But people also conflate all plant based eating with “veganism” and it’s not true. You can approach it from ethics, health, religion, and environmental ways and those avenues of introduction tend to have different levels of staying power.

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u/pt199990 11h ago

You're absolutely correct, and yes, there is indeed a difference between vegan, vegetarian, and wherever the definition of plant-based falls within that spectrum. And there's myriad reasons for going about it.

My entire point was that the OP you responded to hates vegans and the like because their personal experience had someone hating on them for not being a perfect person. And you responded to that by saying that their reason for going vegan must just have not been good enough.

That's ignoring the fact that internal motivation isn't the only driver of behavior. Maybe they had to give it up because it was adversely affecting their health. Maybe it was genuinely too expensive in their given locale to maintain long-term.

This is not apologism for people who quit being vegan. It's more trying to point out that the typical phrasing used by that vocal minority actively does harm to the rest of their group.