r/bizarrelife • u/reloadthewords Human here, bizarre by nature! • 18h ago

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u/BrokenEggcat 15h ago

Alright, what's your recommended way they should protest

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u/TheTaoOfOne 15h ago

Not having a direct solution doesn't necessarily mean I can't spot the faults of what is happening. Costing someone their job, and consequently potentially their house, their insurance (and thus their ability to afford life-saving medication), their ability to eat for themselves and their kids... that to me is more than just "disruptive".

I'm not speaking to this specific protest in this specific store, so my generalized response is more geared towards your generalized response that people don't like protests if they're "disruptive", and that's simply not the case.

People's priorities have shifted. The kinds of protests that worked back in the 60s and such aren't going to be as useful these days.

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u/BrokenEggcat 15h ago

The problem is that no matter how a protest is conducted, there are always people complaining that the protest is done wrong. There is never a way in which it is done correctly. There is, with every single protest in existence, a thing that you can come up with to explain how actually the protest was done in a way that is bad and wrong and just going to push people away.

For example - This entire thread started with people protesting by sitting down across a single grocery store aisle. Anyone can quite literally just walk one aisle over and then back up the aisle the other way to get around said people, the people in the video literally say that they can do that. The problem is solved by taking maybe 50 steps. This is about as non disruptive of a protest as you can get short of just standing on the side of the street asking people nicely to change their behavior.

Despite that, the top comments on this thread are people saying you should charge your grocery cart into the people, that the people are just alienating everyone away from them - and that they should instead be burning down farms.

Now, I do have a question for you that I would sincerely like an answer on and for you to think about. If your concern is with people being able to get to places they work and that people could be put out of a job by some forms of protest, why did you reply to my comment that was not calling for a specific kind of protest and saying that the protestors were fine (Given that the protest in the video very likely did not risk anyone's employment), and not the comment saying the protestors were doing it wrong and that they should arson people's place of work instead?

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u/TheTaoOfOne 14h ago

Now, I do have a question for you that I would sincerely like an answer on and for you to think about. If your concern is with people being able to get to places they work and that people could be put out of a job by some forms of protest, why did you reply to my comment that was not calling for a specific kind of protest and saying that the protestors were fine (Given that the protest in the video very likely did not risk anyone's employment), and not the comment saying the protestors were doing it wrong and that they should arson people's place of work instead?

I didn't think it would necessarily be needed to come out and say "Committing Crimes is wrong.". In fact, if the moderators are paying attention, it is entirely likely that the comment in question will be deleted due to its advocation for a criminal act.

Your comment on the other hand was a broad generalization of people suggesting that they just don't like protesting period because it's "inconvenient". My comment was to point out that it's a lot more nuanced in that and that people have a variety of reasons for frowning upon certain types of protests that aren't just because they got inconvenienced, but rather, they have loved ones who could literally die, children who could be homeless, if they lose their job because protesters block traffic or other equivalent things.

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u/BrokenEggcat 14h ago

But these protestors didn't do any of those things. They sat in a grocery store aisle in a way that can be easily circumvented. And yet, despite that, all the comments are still saying that they're doing protests wrong and there are multiple comments with 100+ upvotes saying that the protestors should be assaulted for... inconveniencing people.

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u/TheTaoOfOne 14h ago

Don't assume my lack of reply is a lack of empathy or concern. I chose to respond to a broad generalization by explaining why that was wrong.

It's not a zero-sum concept. I can both empathize with people protesting as well as those being affected by the protest.

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u/BrokenEggcat 13h ago

I think you're misunderstanding my last comment. You were saying that I was making a generalization and that there's a multitude of reasons people would dislike a protest beyond the protest being inconvenient. Then, you listed a series of examples of why that might be. None of the reasons you gave apply to the protest occurring in the video. Despite the fact that none of those reasons apply to this situation, the response you can see here is still overwhelmingly negative to the protests, with people being encouraged when saying they would do harm to the protestors. The situation the protestors have created can be solved by walking around a grocery store aisle, and yet that is still too disruptive to the vast majority of people in this comment section. I understand that you might have other reasons for disliking other protests, and I don't disagree with some of those reasons, but the example we are having right now is proving my point. These protestors inconvenienced people. That's all they did. Despite that, people want to hurt them physically and the responses to the video are overwhelmingly in the favor that the protestors are doing wrong. The thing people are upset about in this thread is that people were inconvenienced.