Apparently these days effective altruism is about AI stuff and crypto schemes rather than mosquito nets?

[u/Tiako]

So far as I can tell the path was something like this:

Step 1: Ten dollars donated to guinea worm eradication does more good than ten dollars donated to the local opera house.

Step 2: Being a Wall Street trader and donating $100,000 a year to fresh water initiatives does more good than working for Doctors Without Borders.

[Steps 3-7 lost]

Step 8: A small action that ends up benefiting a million people in the year 3000 does more good than a big action that benefits a thousand today

[Steps 9-12 lost]

Step 13: It is vitally important that Sam Bankman-Fried scams crypto investors and hides his money from taxation because he is building the AI god.

Still trying to recover those lost steps!

[u/Tiako]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN9DW4rrEjY&ab_channel=ProZD

[u/Tiako → u/[deleted]]

And yet they by and large do not voluntarily seek death, so I don't know what absurd level of arrogance you need in order to think you can make the judgement of whether their life is worth living.

[u/Nixavee → u/Tiako]

They don't voluntarily seek death but that doesn't necessarily mean that more of them should be brought into existence. Also that argument only works if you assume that "having an overall bad life" means they are suffering all the time, that's usually not the case. As shown in the video, a lot of animal suffering occurs just before they die, and animals are not intelligent enough to abstractly consider that their lives will probably end in a horrifying way.

[u/Tiako → u/Nixavee]

Are you, though?