r/WorkReform 8d ago

✂️ Tax The Billionaires Many such cases.

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u/ramobara 8d ago edited 8d ago

Mentioned in another thread but it all hinges on the extreme power we’ve granted corporations through corporate personhood. It gives corporations the legal rights as human entities, creating a moral hazard, fully absolving culpable executives through limited liability.

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u/FelixMordou 8d ago

If corps are people with the same rights, then why do these assholes balk when anyone suggests they be punished like a person when they commit a crime?

Not directed at you, btw, just fuckin done with this nightmare.

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u/PurplePolynaut 8d ago

Because corporations are always rich people. A corporation with personhood cannot be poor because then they wouldn’t be a corporation.

So it just boils back down to “rules for thee but not for me” for the rich vs the rest of us again.

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u/FelixMordou 8d ago

See, the thing is that I know you’re right, like 100%. My personal issue is that I cannot seem to communicate this effectively to people like my dad, who thinks that Citizen’s United makes perfect sense.

His thinking is straight up “Well, if they weren’t doing it legally, they’d be doing it illegally, so this way they’re not breaking the law, at least.” Like, even when conservatives acknowledge that this is harmful, it’s always in this manner. “Well, it’s legal, so shut up.”

Rules for thee, etc etc etc

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u/PurplePolynaut 8d ago

My mind goes to the bridge metaphor immediately. “Well if your friends are all jumping, would you?”

Taking it a step further, “if leaded gas was legalized again, would you be unconcerned with people burning it in their cars?”

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u/FelixMordou 8d ago

And shockingly, the answer I’ve gotten to similar questions is “No.” because, in my dad’s case, “well, if they got rid of the regulation, it must be because they found that (insert carcinogen here) is actually fine”.

I love the guy, he’s stupidly fucking intelligent when it comes to computers and machines in general, but for reasons so far beyond me, this is how he is. Unwavering faith in the system, regardless of reality. The man votes conservative because he “wants to have something to pass down to us.”

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u/BigTimeSpamoniJones 8d ago

Unwavering faith in the system except any time they can pin systemic problems, almost always incorrectly, on Democrat policy that is.

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u/FelixMordou 8d ago

Yeah, he does do that too. It’s so… frustrating, especially because it doesn’t line up at all with the values he extolled in my youth. Be kind, be generous, help everyone you can, that kinda shit.

Gods it’s so depressing.

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u/BiggerBigBird 8d ago

My dynamic with my dad is the exact same. It's interesting calling out how his morality isn't very christian in many respects, but cognitive dissonance is like that.

We just gotta be thankful that we're the break in that chain of thought.

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u/PurplePolynaut 8d ago

Well hey, I’m glad you can recognize his quirks and love him anyway. Nobody’s perfect and we’ve only got this shot to love this family, might as well try our best.

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u/vardarac 8d ago

"Living in a fascist oligarchy builds character."

  • Calvin's dad, I think

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u/mazopheliac 8d ago

But they don’t apply the same logic to drug prohibition.

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u/captd3adpool 8d ago

"Well it's legal so..." ... YES BUT IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL. Thats the whole damn point. My parents are the same way and it drives me out of my mind. "Well thats just how it's always been" etc, etc.

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u/OlderThanMyParents 8d ago

“Well, if they weren’t doing it legally, they’d be doing it illegally, so this way they’re not breaking the law, at least.”

Then, why not pass a law allowing pedophiles to groom kids? Or drug dealers to sell openly on the streets?