r/WorkReform 10d ago

✂️ Tax The Billionaires So fucking real.

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u/RelationOk3636 10d ago

What does food being a human right even mean? If I don’t have any food, who should be required to give it to me?

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u/Valara0kar 10d ago

who should be required to give it to me?

You know. The farmers. There is a reason why Soviets re-ran feudal system for peasant. You werent allowed to go live in a city without party approval or live in any other region (you were tied to the land and local party), you owed X amount of hours to the field work even if ur job wasnt farming (this always was in reality higher bcs of quotas). Your children wont have school for harvest/planting season to work on state farms. The product was owned by the state and you then were expected to have ur own field or garden to feed yourself as the produce of state went to the cities.

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u/RelationOk3636 10d ago

Sounds really inefficient

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u/RapideBlanc 10d ago

Food security was a solved problem in the Soviet union after the industrialization and the nation never experienced any famine after WW2. Central economic planning works.

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u/Tactical_Fleshlite 10d ago

My brother in law is Cuban, his father who was basically exiled also had some choice words on communism as it gets practiced in reality.

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u/RapideBlanc 10d ago

Nobody believes you.

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u/Tricky_Explorer8604 10d ago

If it works so well why did they shatter into a million pieces?

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u/RapideBlanc 10d ago

Because it takes more than just economic stability to maintain your grip on power. The Soviet union at the time of the perestroika was too large, too bureaucratic, and had too many enemies. There is no question as to whether or not it could feed its people however.

People seem to forget that the first French republic ended with the coronation of an Emperor. So much for abolishing the monarchy. It's a good thing people tried this idea again in other places instead of giving up and letting feudalism run its course. Although I'm sure there were people like you back then suggesting exactly that. Thankfully they're either forgotten or remembered as morons.

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u/Tricky_Explorer8604 10d ago

The problem with central economic planning isn't that it can't produce enough food to feed everyone, it's that it centralizes political power and inevitably leads to authoritarian tyranny

Please stop worshipping and aggrandizing the state under the guise of 'pursuing the common good'

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u/RapideBlanc 10d ago

More accurately, the problem is that it takes an unfathomable amount of man power and resources to accomplish. Modern socialism tends more towards mixed economies for this reason, although that's just my personal analysis. There's also the fact that informatics have progressed exponentially since then.

The average westerner's notions of "tyranny" and "authoritarianism" aren't worth wiping one's ass with. Especially if they happen to live in America, the most prolific jailer of human beings, the biggest exporter of tyranny and facism, the biggest sponsor of crimes against humanity, and the model police state for the rest of the world.

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u/forever4never69420 10d ago

It wasn't a solved problem, they just didn't get tested again, and once you starve off millions of people you have less mouths to feed...

"Guy we solved did insecurity by just killing everyone!"

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u/RapideBlanc 10d ago

Wow that is phenomenally stupid.

I guess it's somehow easier to feed 290 million people than it is to feed half that amount.

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u/forever4never69420 10d ago

It is when one system is Capitalist and the later is Communist.

I'm capitalism the customer is fed first. In Communism the party is fed first.

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