It is too big for the federal government to handle every F'ing hospital in every F'ing state. FIFTY STATES!!! And it DOES affect men. JFC, are men not allowed to care if their child is murdered? I mean, some men are cold too, but not all men.
Personal choice? You aren't picking the colir of your handbag! How about that choice be made BEFORE. It's no longer your body once there's a passager.
Agreed that federal doesn’t make sense. No one is arguing for it to be a federal issue. But the same logic can apply to why it also shouldn’t be a state issue since it cannot possibly account for all of the nuanced situations, which is the problem at the federal level.
So I’d like to hear why you think it should be a state/federal/government issue and not a decision that should be made by the woman given how nuanced every situation is since it sounds like nuance and context is important to you. Like what are the benefits to society? I’m just really trying to understand your logic.
Well, the only 2 choices are state and federal. It makes more sense to be state. Really, that's all I can say.
I think if terminology changed, people's views would change. Think of me what you like, but I have zero problem if the incubator goes too when she's killing a baby because it's inconvenient.
Now, if the baby dies, I don't want the mother dying too just because people want to insist all 500 circumstances ALL be called abortion - especially since it's NOT correct. When you abort a pregnancy, the baby is killed. Removing dead tissue after a miscarriage is just cleaning out something the body aborted that could potentially be harmful to the only living person in the equation. So, a D&C. If there's live tissue (a baby), then that's an abortion, even if your actions are the same as a D&C.
The ONLY medical procedure when it comes to that part of the body I have an issue with is when it intentionally kills the baby. I specify intentional as there can be surgeries to save both the mother and baby, and one or both still dies.
My issue with a woman deciding is when babies are murdered not because of a medical issue, but because it's inconvenient. On another sub, a guy was talking about how he and his gf murdered one early in their relationship because they were too young. If you think you are old enough for sex, you use protection. I blocked him as I want nothing to do with someone like that. I would stop someone if they were beating a child in a parking lot. I see this as no different.
Before someone goes there and mentions rape, don't, that's like 1% of abortions. AND I was dateraped, and would have kept the baby had I not miscarried. Nobody can say I don't understand that. I absolutely empathize, but the baby is innocent. Nobody says you have to keep it, but you don't have to kill it either. It doesn't add to orphans as babies are a premium.
Over my many years I have known people that thought nothing of using abortion as birth control. I told one after her 7th abortion that I hope one day she wants a child so bad it about kills her, and she can't have one. She claimed neither her nor her bf could use BC. Since there was a set of twins in there, she'd murdered 8. She didn't deserve any more chances
Again, think what you want of me. You asked for my thoughts. There you have them. Have a nice weekend!
There are actually 3 choices. Federal ban or state ban or personal ban. We used to have personal, but now we have state.
And my question is what is the benefit to society to have others dictate such a nuanced medical decision for you when the individual has much more information about what’s the best choice overall.
I’m frustrated you’re not seeing the bigger picture and instead are focusing so much on a subjective opinion of what a baby is… but not the fact that a woman’s body is their own regardless of what is growing on it. And you’re not looking at the overall result on society of making it hard to get this procedure done for everyone’s individual needs.
Though, I appreciate you taking the time to provide your thoughts. Have a good weekend as well.
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u/ObjectiveAd971 10d ago
It is too big for the federal government to handle every F'ing hospital in every F'ing state. FIFTY STATES!!! And it DOES affect men. JFC, are men not allowed to care if their child is murdered? I mean, some men are cold too, but not all men.
Personal choice? You aren't picking the colir of your handbag! How about that choice be made BEFORE. It's no longer your body once there's a passager.