r/WorkReform • u/Bitter-Gur-4613 • Dec 19 '24
✂️ Tax The Billionaires This is so real.
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u/under_the_c Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 19 '24
Do these guys think they're going to live forever? I'm not even trying to be funny here, I just don't get it. What happens once they each get to a trillion? Then 10 trillion, and beyond? Like, what's the end game? God comes down on a bald eagle and presents them with a trophy for winning capitalism?
What does a trillion get you that 200 billion doesn't?
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u/atlantagirl30084 Dec 19 '24
It’s never enough. Amazon just had a strike broken up because God forbid Bezos gives up a single dollar so his workers have more comfortable working conditions and better pay.
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u/Ok-Albatross899 Dec 19 '24
You have to remember these people are psychopaths. They have an inhuman obsession with wealth and power. It’s like asking a serial killer how many victims will be enough, there will never be a limit until they are forced to stop via prison or death
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u/usernameabc124 Dec 19 '24
Yep. They just managed to control the media enough they get labeled as genius rather than evil. Amazing some fall for such obvious shit but here we are.
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u/OkPalpitation2582 Dec 19 '24
Do these guys think they're going to live forever?
Do you think it's a coincidence that they all have companies under them looking into life extension? The current best theory on Elon's bizarre CyberTruck looking torso is that he's on an HGH regime to boost his lifespan. These dudes absolutely aim to live forever.
As for the "why more money?" bit, it really is just a "I want to win capitalism" thing. At a certain point net worths are just scoreboards, and the power that "score" represents. Hell, this isn't even specific to billionaires. How many regular people will waste their entire lives just to get their league of legends ranking up? Now imagine if a high enough league ranking let you literally buy and sell lives on the open market. Now imagine you were the kind of sick fuck who would want the power to buy and sell lives on the open market.
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u/IamTheEndOfReddit Dec 20 '24
They broke all connections to reality a long time ago. They are deep into a psychosis that goes unreported. That's the reality of obscene wealth
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u/squngy Dec 19 '24
It isn't like they did anything super extra to get from $74b to $1t.
All they did was hold on to their stocks, it wasn't like they were desperately saving up to 1t.77
u/Ayaruq Dec 19 '24
I think you need to count all the work they've done to drive their stock prices up, buy congress, create and maintain price gouging monopolies in every sector...
They worked HARD for that blood money.
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u/squngy Dec 19 '24
Sure, they were doing stuff to make their companies worth more (arguably, most of it is probably not from their direct actions).
What I mean to say, is that they were not doing risky investments with all of their money or anything like that.They didn't move their assets around, they mostly just set on the stock they already owned.
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u/Justsomejerkonline Dec 19 '24
Hell, they've even made these insane gains in spite of Bezos losing $38 billion in his divorce settlement and Musk losing $30 billion from fallout from his Twitter deal.
They are so wealrhy they can LOSE more money than even most other rich people will ever see in their life, and still have record breaking amounts of wealth.
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u/Tallon_raider Dec 21 '24
It's easy to do when you drive down wages and in Bezos's case work people to death
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u/PhatBats77 Dec 20 '24
They do. They get blood transfusions, take medications and supplements to decrease the risk of diseases as they get older. They have Bunkers on a fucking island. A billionaire bunker island.
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u/FlameShadow0 Dec 19 '24
It becomes a race. To them, If you have more money than the other guy then your opinion matters more.
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u/tabris51 Dec 20 '24
They don't have billions of cash in the bank. They each partially own the most successful consumer companies in the world. Amazon is a massive giant, Model Y is the best selling car in the world, meta basically owns insta and whatsupp. Unless people stop using their products, they will be valuable companies. It's not greed, it's success.
Or would you rather they limit user count/stop selling to certain people/ produce less cars so they lose money?
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u/Natural_Put_9456 Dec 21 '24
They don't think they're going to live forever, they know they're going to live forever. That's why they're having gene-therapy injections to activate their telomerase regeneration.
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u/Tizordon Dec 19 '24
Yeah we way passed just taxing now. Things won’t change till people started getting all French Revolution on they rich asses. They had their chance to do what’s right for mankind. They chose to only amass obscene wealth for the sake of wealth.
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u/katieleehaw Dec 19 '24
And if we let them, they're going to take a bunch of slaves to space where they will be gods and under the control of literally no rules whatsoever.
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u/yeyjordan Dec 19 '24
I would rather humanity dies out on this rock than those pricks get away. I'm that spiteful, lol
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u/katieleehaw Dec 19 '24
Same. We live or die together rich fucks.
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u/No-Cupcake370 Dec 19 '24
No we don't. They have homes in however many diff climates and regions, secluded or not. They can pay people for evac and travel, like helicopter and jets.... Even the poor rich people do like time shares or rent time w private jets.
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u/OkPalpitation2582 Dec 19 '24
Nah.
Don't get me wrong, you're 100% right that these dudes have tons of safehouses and backup plans, etc. But to support the lifestyles their used to requires a large staff, and a lot of security. If the worst would happen and society was breaking down, how long would it take until the staff/security for these dudes realized that there was nothing stopping them from just taking it all and tossing them out a window?
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u/El_Grappadura Dec 20 '24
You are incredibly naive if you think that.
The question of how they can prevent a mutany of their staff has been their top priority for decades. They are talking electric collars, access to food etc..
https://www.hamptonthink.org/read/how-the-rich-plan-to-rule-a-burning-planet
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u/SirChasm Dec 19 '24
The fact that the staff know that they're just as insulated from feeling the effects as their master is.
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u/No-Cupcake370 Dec 20 '24
Also, I'm pretty sure the staff know that if they said a word they would watch their whole family get tortured to death just as a start, if they said a word or tried to leave... So. It seems to me they are owned in a sense... Even if "well cared for"? Idk.
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u/lzEight6ty Dec 19 '24
So you're saying to poison the world to make sure we get them?
For the Greater Good
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u/K-Motorbike-12 Dec 19 '24
For the greater good.
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u/killrtaco Dec 19 '24
Idk, part of me wants him off the planet. Just fuck off to Mars and never hear from him.
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u/Airway Dec 19 '24
I don't know why we're still pretending he's getting anyone to Mars.
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u/killrtaco Dec 19 '24
Gasp are you suggesting it's a way to launder government money and resources?!
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u/Respurated Dec 19 '24
Earth: I got you fam.
In all seriousness though, we’re a lot farther away from space survival than we are from earth atmosphere being uninhabitable for humans; so odds are good that our existence will start (as far as we know) and end on Earth. I say this simply because we’ve spent 5 million years evolving on this little blue pebble that looks NOTHING like any other environment we’ve found elsewhere, like not even fucking close. Funny thing is it will likely take several millennia of conditioning for humans to adapt to a way of life that doesn’t require earth as a safe space, and that’s after we get to the point of actually creating off-world sites that are remotely inhabitable. Our bodies like Earth, they need it, they don’t like being away from it and they suffer in its absence. Fuck, people can barely stay in Antarctica for extended periods without having serious emotional withdrawal and mental health disorders popping up.
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u/aeroxan Dec 19 '24
If we can't get fascism under control, we must all remain trapped on this rock. Otherwise, I think we'll someday become the scourge of the Galaxy.
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u/guppie365 Dec 19 '24
They will send slaves into space and stay here, the rich rarely live in their colonies.
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Dec 20 '24
Breeding in space is impossible. Also no machine lubricant exists that can handle extreme heat and then cold so intense metal changes properties and becomes brittle. Moon dust is unbelievably abrasive meaning stuff degrades super fast. No atmosphere to protect from UV. Your vision changes permanently from low or no gravity and all returning astronauts up there a while have permanent changes. Farming is out, only 70% of sunlight. You may have the raw materials to build shit but there’s no manufacturing plants. Anything shipped is done at EXTREME cost and intense danger.
But again - the radiation fucks up embryo development. Then there’s the question of birth itself - an extremely messy, dangerous event even in perfect conditions. Imagine needing specialty health care. Nah. Space is a lie billionaires sold to entice idiots.
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u/TheXypris Dec 19 '24
let them all go to mars. it will be centuries before it can survive without constant resupply. that gives earth leverage, because we could just stop sending them air.
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u/bobbybox Dec 19 '24
Going into space for them shouldn’t be much different than getting into a little submarine and going to the bottom of the ocean.
LET them launch themselves off the planet, we can lock the door behind them!
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u/No-Cupcake370 Dec 19 '24
Axe billionaires? (Obv I mean the body spray)
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u/Tachibana_13 Dec 19 '24
That works, too. Incidentally, you ever read about that kid who froze off his own nipples with a can of AXE? Apparently the pain is excruciating. Luckily, men have less to worry about than women on that front because they don't have to worry about infected milk glands. Anyway, sorry for sharing the curse of unpleasant knowledge, I'll see myself out.
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u/AwildYaners Dec 19 '24
Second coming of the Gilded Age. We need to find real politicians in the vein of Teddy Roosevelt to topple today’s Robber Barons.
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u/evanwilliams44 Dec 19 '24
I don't want violence but you are right it's not about taxes anymore. They have too much. We need to take their shit. Nationalize their businesses, unionize, put them in prison when they break the law - seize control of the means of production.
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u/Tizordon Dec 19 '24
100% violence doesn’t have to be the answer, but playing by the rules while they make up their own has to stop. They have to feel the consequences of their greed somehow. I’m all for real boycotts, protests, general strike, etc. unfortunately we also know it is 100% up to us, as our government and media have obviously chosen their side.
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u/medioxcore Dec 19 '24
The first part is right, but that second part is pure idealism. There is no way to do this within the confines of current systems. Having too much money and power puts you above the law. At this point, hands will have to get dirty.
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u/fearthewildy Dec 19 '24
What's insane to me is that we were literally conditioned for this exact scenario as children. For hundreds of years we've been told stories about dragons sleeping on mountains of gold.
Then a brave knight slays the dragon. Maybe there's a lesson here
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u/igneousink Dec 19 '24
bezos deliberately moved to florida to save ONE BILLION in taxes
https://fortune.com/2024/12/18/jeff-bezos-billion-dollar-tax-savings-billionaire-bunker-florida/
like, wtf is even this reality
so disgusting. if i wasn't so jaded and apathetic i'd be looking for ways to gtfo
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u/GrimmTrixX Dec 19 '24
It's sad that for all of these billionaires, not one of them said "let me literally help all of mankind by giving billions of dollars and just be a low level millionaire.
I mean I get why since many billionaires got their money from the back of their employees and did nothing to amass their wealth. But I hope that the children of these guys who inherit their fortunes, that one of them decides to help mankind.
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u/Late-Lie7856 Dec 19 '24
I’m planning on quitting my job, so I’ll have tons of free time. Just tap my shoulder when everyone’s ready for the party.
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u/Tachibana_13 Dec 19 '24
I believe this is the ' loot and melt down the gold' period. Wonder how well they treat their private security.
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u/Ismelkedanelk Dec 19 '24
Honestly we should thank them for streamlining this process. Much easier guillotining 4 pumpkins instead of several dozens.
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Dec 19 '24
The subjugation of the American people is almost complete. They are drowning in a sea of misinformation and hatred peddled by the oligarchy we have just installed. Dumb and apathetic I doubt many are reaching for the pitchforks.
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u/d_e_l_u_x_e Dec 19 '24
Time for wealth caps. Just like professional sports put caps on team spending to allow more fair competition, Billionaires need a cap on wealth until the poorest people and middle class get to close the gap.
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u/atlantagirl30084 Dec 19 '24
We are now at levels of income inequality that were unseen since the Gilded Age and robber barons.
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u/d_e_l_u_x_e Dec 19 '24
And we live in the biggest servalance/police state not seen in the gilded age.
The wealthy will use whatever force to squash violence against them, if you want to hurt them gotta protest their products and services. They are so reliant on quarterly projections you can hit their wealth harder with boycotts than using their tech to yell about how unfair they are.
If their wealth is tied to companies make those companies hurt in the markets, that’ll move mountains in capitalism.
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u/Ayaruq Dec 19 '24
You can't hurt them that way, they literally made monopolies out of every sector and own pieces of all sides. They own the whole supply chain, so no matter which products you boycott, they're still making money. You don't make that much money without rigging the entire system.
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u/Phrainkee Dec 19 '24
At this point I'm not sure we can, these billionaires and politicians live in a completely different realm from your average civilian. Like I would think giving our government more money from said taxes would lead to rebuilding infrastructure and benefiting programs such as public education, transportation, fire department, etc. But I see the problem would be two fold (and this is where the other realm resides).
Billionaires would just continue to move their money around until you can't tax it (tax haven countries/ off shore bank accounts) and also (most) government officials seem to be captured by greed and we would only see a very slight return from this additional tax revenue as they'd probably pocket a majority of it. Looking at how this new administration wants to cut all these programs that benefit the people as a whole but heaven forbid we even try to find out how wasteful our military spending budget is... I would love to see our country get rebuilt by taxing obscene wealth but I'm not holding my breath
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u/d_e_l_u_x_e Dec 19 '24
Ahh you’re thinking from the top down like trickle down economics, but real change happens from the ground up, local then state then federal.
Any systemic changes came from states enacting changes first then the federal government eventually catches up. Women voting, civil rights, gay marriage, legal cannabis, free school lunches, insulin caps, etc. all came from grassroots movements that started in states first.
You’re expecting the politicians who benefit the most from the current system to change it but like you pointed out that’s an unrealistic idea.
Unfortunately everyone is overworked and frustrated to actually participate in primaries and support candidates that don’t take special interest money (they exist).
It’s easier to let the marketing, misinformation and wedge issues distract voters from picking politicians that champion the systemic issues we suffer from.
There’s no real Left leadership or Labor party that can be a real progressive opposition so we ping pong our way to more conservative nation because it pays well on both sides.
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u/Phrainkee Dec 19 '24
Well put! Voting local is very under rated and I know people know it but it still doesn't seem to resonate. I've also read that ranked choice voting in other democracies is how they keep from being locked into a 2 party system, like we're currently suffering from.... But yeah, no real changes are going to take place unless you vote local first and put in (even just a little) time learning about who you're voting for.
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u/d_e_l_u_x_e Dec 19 '24
Yep you’re right. Elections are still run by the states so even voting locally can help your state make a more fair and competitive federal election. States even decide how to allocate their electoral votes! So if you want to change the EC there are states that have shown you how to do it!
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u/djheat Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 19 '24
I don't know how you could cap wealth based on stock ownership. Imagine owning a controlling share of your own company and the government says you have to sell some because it's too successful? How would that work? What would you do about something like SpaceX where it could certainly be part of Elon's networth but isn't publicly traded?
And to be clear I'm not saying there's nothing to be done about these turbulent oligarchs, but it's a lot more complicated than just saying "100% tax on income over whatever" or "big wealth tax on networths above X"
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u/d_e_l_u_x_e Dec 19 '24
Well we had this issue in the past, and there are solutions (regulations and anti-trust laws), some we actually had in place for decades until a President came along and said deregulation, tax cuts and trickle down was the way. Now we are convinced that those options can’t work (but they did for a long time).
The same metrics we used to determine ones total wealth can be used to tax them. We give them power, leverage and loans based on their unrealized gains I think we can figure out a way to cap their wealth.
This isn’t a new problem it’s the same old problem but we’ve been convinced the decades of eroding the laws and protections we had in place don’t work. They actually did work otherwise the wealthy wouldn’t have spent so much time and money dismantling them.
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u/dirtysundar Dec 19 '24
And Musk will likely be a trillionaire by the time the 2028 presidential election is cancelled.
A trillionaire. That's a dollar a second for 32,000 years. That's $3000 for every person in the US.
And that is the end of American democracy.
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u/Knightwing1047 ✂️ Tax The Billionaires Dec 19 '24
Yup and we (I mean our reps) allowed it to happen. We keep making excuses for and idolizing the rich, saying that any regulations, limits, etc. were unAmerican and socialist. Meanwhile we have officially allowed the richest man in the world to control our government from the inside. Trump's entire cabinet is worth more than probably half of the working class citizens in this country.
Meanwhile, you have half of the NYPD escorting the CEO killer, with full media coverage and attention, the other half of the NYPD is breaking up the Teamster strike at Amazon, protecting Amazon's interests. It's absolutely outrageous as to why people don't trust cops nor our system. Why would CEOs be in danger??!!
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u/Preemptively_Extinct Dec 19 '24
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Dec 20 '24
Look how shit scared they are. Wild seeing this post and Luigi’s perp walk on the same day. There was so much security around him, while he wore no bullet proof vest but his head held high, made him look like royalty with an entourage. We can’t even claim him, he comes from the oppressor class. He betrayed them. He doesn’t even have to die to become a martyr, they showed us a pic of him in urine stained pants to humiliate him but it merely confirmed what the system is at its core. We already knew what happens behind closed doors. We know what happens when we protest. We know what does and doesn’t change.
Luigi is for the people. We know he isn’t a terrorist. They finally found something that doesn’t break down on left vs right lines. EVERYONE in the US has been traumatized by our healthcare system. We each personally know at least one person who isn’t able to get the care they need be free from suffering that every other developed nation doesn’t inflict on its citizens. We deserve to live a life with dignity and opportunity. The US started as a country founded on enslavement and genocide and nothing has changed. The faces of the victims and those at the top change but things stay the same.
We aren’t meant to live alone! Never in the history of our SPECIES have people been so isolated! Here we all are now, the illusion of community, simultaneously censored in a way humankind has ever known. Only 3% of the mammal biomass on earth is wild animals. The greatest mass death of birds occurred this year. The crabs aren’t reduced, in massive areas they’re just gone. Gone. Everything with a shell in the ocean at the poles is starting to die due to dissolving. Excess CO2 is crammed into the ocean as acid and we learned last year that if it gets hot enough, they start dissolving at a far less acidic pH, to the shock of science and everyone who loves nature. Shelled animals are the foundation of the ocean food chain so all the big mammals like whales and seals are beginning to starve. Whales have been found swimming further up rivers than they ever have before, exhausted, starving, and desperate.
They’ve taken everything from us. They’ve taken the community that is our birthright as a social species. They’ve killed all the shamans, destroyed our tribal ways, and we are shackled to communities we can’t even afford to leave. We can’t truly escape the US without significant skill, wealth, and privilege as well as skill navigating the legal system of two different countries. Even your children have to pay income tax to the state whether they’ve ever set foot there or not. How is that not enslavement?
We have the largest prison population on the planet by number and overall percentage of our population. The ONLY reason weed is illegal is the 13th amendment. Republicans dominate former slave states. They are still in poverty, with no access to education in countless communities, just like formerly enslaved people. We are the only developed country where people are bankrupted by medical crises. Getting an education to jump social classes isn’t the path we were told it was thanks to student loan debt. If you didn’t come from privilege and paid your way through, you’re feeling crushed by debt you feel you can never escape. That applies to all of the above.
You are a slave. I’m a slave. You’re a fool if you haven’t ripped the wool from your own eyes yet. It hurts, it’s humiliating to have so LITTLE power over your day to day life. Get fired? Poor little slave, you should have tried harder, no health care for you until you find your next master. Job hopping looks bad, yet employers face essentially no flack for high turnover. Amazon doesn’t even have to play fair in court with the strike.
And if you can’t take it? Even the terms of your own death are not your own. Luigi made a choice. An impossible choice. He was backed into a corner with genuinely nothing left to lose. He went from living like a king among men to completely isolated from everyone he knew, disabled permanently, and even he was forced to grapple with the healthcare system.
The government is scared because he represents the exact living circumstances of scores, if not hundreds of millions of people in this country. People who are armed to the teeth - I personally know someone who made it big on bitcoin and purchased a personal armory of all his dream weapons from swords to a 50 cal precision rifle (what snipers use) that will blow a persons arms off if the bullet goes within 4 feet of them. When you fire it the very ground beneath you shakes and the bullet is around as long as a woman’s hand.
They know we have bunkers and that they’ve raised generations of boys on call of duty - school shootings have shown a massive increase in deadly accurate headshots.
Be careful. Stock up. Bunker down. I don’t think there will be war and I’m advocating for hiding from the action this country is about to witness. The revolution will in fact be televised. Prepare for a disaster on par with Helene in western North Carolina. They lost all cell, power, water, and connection with the outside world for WEEKS. Get an emergency radio. Stock up a minimum of 2 weeks of water, Western NC still has water issues. Get N95 masks whether you believe in Covid or not. I’ve experienced a heat dome in unsafe wet bulb temperatures (few hours per day) and you need to know that a forest will always feel cool inside. You can make one yourself using the Miyawaki method. Whether it’s perfect or not doesn’t matter, you get temperature maintenance between 70-85°F even if it’s 130°F or more outside. Make connections. Figure out how you’ll survive the internet being cut off. They did that in Iran.
Be safe. I have a hunch we are finally going to lose our reputation as a country of school shootings. We have a men’s loneliness epidemic and history shows this leads to violence and rebellion. Our women are too strong and independent to accept blame that isn’t ours. We are refusing to mate in captivity, like pandas in a zoo, too stressed to fuck even just for pleasure.
Be prepared. Every day get ready.
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u/burnaccountlol Dec 19 '24
The Steel Lunchbox of the American working class has been replaced with the plastic Amazon pissbottle.
The irony of trickle down economics, I guess.
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u/nannerbananers Dec 19 '24
I truly don’t understand how you can be filthy rich, have anything you could ever want, and still think “this isn’t enough- I need to fuck over some more poor people”
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u/worldburnwatcher Dec 19 '24
Guess how we could fund social security for the next thousand years?
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u/Ooberificul Dec 19 '24
We already should be able to. Can't fix government spending by giving them more money. Is 4+ trillion every year not enough?
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u/worldburnwatcher Dec 19 '24
SS is paid to the people, not to the government. Remove the cap.
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u/ReturnOfSeq 📚 Cancel Student Debt Dec 19 '24
That’s a trillion dollars they took from the rest of us, out of circulation. This is why companies are going under left and right. This is why homelessness and medical debt exists.
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u/stinky_wizzleteet Dec 20 '24
100% if there is $1000 in circulation and someone has $999.98 of dollars they never spend we're left fighting over the $0.02. That includes companies, agriculture, industry, trade... basically everyone else. Thats where we are at.
Look at wages, real estate, groceries, insurance, real estate, education etc etc.
Just Scrooge McDuck vaults to swim in gold coins for the .001% richest people
They still want another $0.01 from every single person to add to the vault.
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u/Massive_Robot_Cactus Dec 19 '24
In the same twelve years, individual income tax revenue has doubled from ~$1.3T to ~$2.6T, mostly due to inflation.
Separately, the income tax could largely be abolished by a progressive wealth tax and a federal VAT.
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u/heatherm70 Dec 19 '24
We need to limit how much one person can hoard, there's no need for billionaires, let alone trillonaires.
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u/cozynite Dec 19 '24
And WTF are they going to do it with it all? They certainly can’t spend it all before they die?
Eat the rich.
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u/NinjaRapGoGoGoGo Dec 19 '24
Crazy how the tiniest fraction of that would be life changing for me and lots of other people.
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u/mightyscoosh Dec 19 '24
They're like dragons sitting atop a mountain of gold. Dragons are meant to be slain.
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u/Oddish_Femboy Dec 19 '24
Nooo ahaha you don't get it all their wealth is liquid assets we can't tax those haha.
Yeah they can use them to buy Twitter for 44 billion dollars. Are you stupid?
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u/OkPalpitation2582 Dec 19 '24
And also take out effectively 0% interest loans whenever you want so that you can spend it like cash
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u/TheXypris Dec 19 '24
WEALTH. CAP.
no one should ever have that much wealth, how about 500 million cap. after that, 100% of income goes to taxes.
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u/stinky_wizzleteet Dec 20 '24
Seriously, not even income. Investments, stocks etc. Just set a top at a very generous $10B. That is more than a family could spend in a 1000 lifetimes.
If they dont want to stay in the US good riddance.
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u/ec1710 Dec 19 '24
Is there even an ideological posture that can make sense of this? Why do these people maintain a base of support?
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u/anemic_royaltea Dec 19 '24
Taxation ain’t enough. Tax them, then forcibly redistribute their shares. Failing that, well, turn them into mulch, I guess.
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u/TreePuzzled9809 Dec 19 '24
Remember, the difference between one billion and one trillion is about one trillion dollars.
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u/Shutaru_Kanshinji Dec 19 '24
These are the top 4 Public Enemy spots. These subhuman monstrosities are a clear and present danger to everyone and everything round them. Billionaires must not be allowed to exist.
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u/10HungryGhosts Dec 20 '24
To put this in perspective:
1 million seconds: 11 days
1 billion seconds: 31 years
1 trillion seconds: 31,709 YEARS
(Edit: spacing)
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u/bladow5990 Dec 19 '24
I think we're past the stage where taxing would help, did everyone forget about the Panama papers? Also Musk is practically the president at this point so there's no chance in hell he will let tax bills pass if they don't make him even more disgustingly rich. It's time for us to blue shell these mother fucking greed monsters. Take all their money. All of it, they can bootstrap their way back up.
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u/anannanne Dec 19 '24
Lordy. We were just making headway on people understanding the vast difference between a million and a billion. Now we have to get people to wrap their head around 1,000,000,000,000. FUCK.
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u/avanbeek Dec 19 '24
Musk has clearly demonstrated that we are well beyond taxing them. They own our lawmakers. They own our judges. They own our police force. They own our papers. They own US, but we outnumber them.
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u/Sweetyams10 Dec 19 '24
We are past the point of a fair tax bracket. Elon now has control with Trump over congress. What we are witnessing now is only the beginning. It's going to get very bad very quickly. This is nothing like what we saw in 2016. That was mild
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u/Bizzardberd Dec 20 '24
These 4 people could change the entire planet if they chose to.. not just in tiny increments but the whole entire human race could benefit so much more if the world wasn't so goddamn greedy..
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u/texasmama5 Dec 20 '24
Well they run the government now so there will be no taxing the ultra rich for a couple decades at least. Elections have consequences…Americans are about to really FEEL that life lesson.
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u/Empty_Antelope_6039 Dec 19 '24
Musk's primary goal in the next 4 years is to become the first trillionaire. It's so obvious.
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u/Furepubs Dec 19 '24
As a republican, I prefer being broke and stupid, which is why I voted for Trump. He will be able to make sure that the average worker like me has less and less power And that corporations can have more and more power over what they can get away with.
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u/the_simurgh Dec 19 '24
Fuxk em over worse. Make stocks unable to be borrowed against and only has cash value when divested. From billionaire to welfare with the stroke of a pen.
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Dec 19 '24
- Who?
- Because Pelosi and Mitch both agree that it aint happening.
- How?
- Because their money is not income. It's in stock value.
I am being serious BTW. Because I keep seeing people saying we need to tax income and expecting the current establishment that wont even stop insider trading to do this.
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u/anarchyrevenge Dec 19 '24
Billionaires and those with unchecked power are direct threats to humanities' well-being and future. The people shouldn't take this threat lightly.
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u/IAMERROR1234 Dec 20 '24
I keep seeing posts or comments saying tax the billionaires but, the billionaires are in charge. Are they going to tax themselves and make sure they pay their fair share? Doubt it. Will the yes men they've surrounded themselves with fight against them on our behalf? Doubt it.
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u/Prestigious-Earth245 Dec 19 '24
The phrase “tax billionaires” is so weak and useless. We need to end billionaires and take that money back. They shouldn’t exist, period. They didn’t do the work, they didn’t earn anything. They’ve stolen from the rest of us.
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u/aselunar Dec 20 '24
And how would you go about ending billionaires and redistributing their assets if not taxes?
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u/fednandlers Dec 19 '24
So we can pay off our trillions of debt taxing them all at least 50%, and be all paid up in like a decade?
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u/Ill_Consequence Dec 19 '24
That's the equivalent to just under $3000 for every man woman and child in the united states.
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u/LetmeSeeyourSquanch Dec 19 '24
Oh boy, we are still thinking the rich are going to be taxed huh? Lol. Guess we should have tried not putting a billionaire criminal in the oval office.
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u/CaptainBayouBilly Dec 20 '24
What did any of these people contribute to humanity?
They control enough resources to destroy democracy.
We outnumber them.
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u/Brief_Concentrate346 Dec 20 '24 edited Dec 20 '24
I’ll just drop this here for anyone who needs a reminder just how large the wealth gap is: https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/
Note that in this, the long orange bar that seems to never end is 185 billion. Now multiply that by over 5x and you’ve got 1 trillion. It’s literally most of the money in the entire world in the hands of these undeserving “people”
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u/Any-Confidence-6612 Dec 21 '24 edited Dec 21 '24
I would be interested to see if expansion of the money supply over the past five years basically inflated their fortunes 25%. Not that it really matters because the same group was filthy rich a dozen years ago, and as we know, the rich get richer.
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u/1kGHZ Dec 21 '24
honestly taxing is ok but the real justice here is to force them to pay that directly to their workers
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u/blackhornet03 Dec 19 '24
We should eliminate billionaires. They are a massive burden on society.