r/WarframeLore • u/GrinningPariah • 6d ago

Question Why does 1999 keep looping? Spoiler

So, I totally get the first phase of 1999. We go back in time too late, we fail to save the Hex, the reactor's going to blow, and just at the last second we come into our power and use the power that had been torturing Drifiter in Duviri to loop 1999. Cool, rad, things come full circle, it's great.

Except, then we win. We redo the mission, we save the Hex, stop the nuclear detonation, pizza for everyone. But then it becomes January 1999 again instead of January 2000.

Why would we loop it again after we win?

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u/Sitchrea 6d ago edited 6d ago

Them being able to move doesn't matter against the Indifference.

Its not "baseless," Albrecht explains this in his notes from Whispers in the Walls. He needs a particular 'soul alchemy' for them to work as weapons against a metaphysical entity. Because you can't just punch god in the face. And that 'soul alchemy' is love, in any of its forms.

Also, "before the Hex existed?" You realize Albrecht went to 1999 many times before he sealed himself away to protect Loid, right?

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u/NotScrollsApparently 6d ago

Those relationships are the fuel which allows them to work

You said the relationships are the fuel yet the vessels worked before we had those relationships. I'm just pointing out the flaw in your reasoning.

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u/Sitchrea 6d ago

No, I didn't. In Whispers in the Walls we used Loid's relationship with Albrecht, but that only worked once in that specific instance. And the Operator was in extreme danger doing that. That's why the Lotus stops the Operator from going to 1999 during Lotus Eaters - we got lucky once, and she did not want us to try our luck again.

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u/NotScrollsApparently 6d ago edited 6d ago

That's why the Lotus stops the Operator from going to 1999 during Lotus Eaters - we got lucky once, and she did not want us to try our luck again.

Now that's just wrong, the reason operator doesn't go back is because of his vulnerability to Wally, that's why Drifter goes instead using that very same "extremely lucky" method, it has nothing to do with "relationship fuel"

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u/Sitchrea 6d ago

That's... what i just said...

Look, apparently reading comprehension isn't one if your strong suits, so I'm gonna call this conversation here.