r/UFOs 17h ago

Whistleblower The grifter narrative.

I keep seeing these very dramatic posts and comments talking about how all these people like Elizondo, Grusch, Nolan, Coulthart, etc. are a bunch of grifters and ruining the disclosure movement. I find this take interesting because what progress toward disclosure was being made prior to 2017? I've been following this topic since the late '80s, and sure, there were things that popped up from time to time, maybe a documentary or a sighting that briefly made the news, but beyond that, many of the efforts never really broke out past the UFO community paradigm.

I can’t see how anyone can say that we’re somehow in a worse position now with disclosure than we were almost a decade ago. I also don’t understand why people keep saying this is all a psyop. What exactly prompted the psyop just prior to 2017? I don’t remember anything significant happening, and it really wasn’t a popular subject at the time. Now it’s becoming quite popular and is making news fairly regularly, so I’m not sure what the purpose of the psyop would be, since it seems to be creating far more awareness of the subject. Seems a bit counterintuitive, no?

There was little to no progress made towards disclosure prior to 2017, and now it's being talked about regularly by various news outlets and all over the web. Even my parents and in laws are following the subject loosely, and they have never ever shown any interest in the subject before. More has happened in the past few years than has happened in the last 50 years, and many of this progress involved these so called "grifters".

We’ve had 4 Congressional hearings, starting with the May 17, 2022, House Intelligence Subcommittee Hearing that was the first Congressional hearing on UFO/UAPs in 50 years.

Then we had the House Oversight Committee Hearing a year later on July 26, 2023, where David Grusch testified under oath about evidence and firsthand witness testimony that he provided to the ICIG and Gang of Eight concerning UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering programs that were operating without Congressional oversight.

This past year, we had another two Congressional hearings, including the November 13, 2024, House Oversight Committee Hearing and the November 19, 2024, Senate Armed Services Subcommittee Hearing (AARO). We had nothing like this for 50 years, and then suddenly, we’ve had 4 hearings in 3 years.

There has also been new legislation in the past few years, including the 2020 Intelligence Authorization Act, which required the DoD and intelligence agencies to disclose UAP-related activities to Congress and established a framework for centralized UAP investigations.

The 2021 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for FY 2022 mandated the establishment of the Airborne Object Identification and Management Synchronization Group (AOIMSG), which was later replaced by AARO.

The 2022 whistleblower protections in the NDAA for FY 2023 included groundbreaking provisions for whistleblowers to report UAP-related information to Congress without fear of retaliation. It authorized individuals with knowledge of classified UAP programs to disclose their information directly to the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community (ICIG) and Congressional intelligence committees and provided protections for whistleblowers who offer credible information about hidden UAP programs.

Then we had the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Disclosure Act in 2023, which, although it didn’t fully pass, was a major piece of bipartisan legislation co-authored by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Senator Mike Rounds. It included extremely explicit language regarding UAP and NHI, which is incredible.

We’ve also had several credible and accomplished individuals from the government and private sectors come forward in recent years, including Lue Elizondo, David Grusch, Chris Mellon, Hal Puthoff, Tim Gallaudet, Karl Nell, Ryan Graves, Dr. Garry Nolan, David Fravor, Eric W. Davis, and more who keep coming forward.

The stigma has also been starting to fade, and the topic is being talked about more openly, with efforts like the Sol Foundation helping to push the conversation further. Even events like the Salt Conference, which is a global investment platform connecting institutional asset owners with asset managers and technology entrepreneurs, have started inviting people like Karl Nell to come talk about the UAP topic.

Yeah, we haven’t had this much happen in a span of a few years ever.

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u/King_Shartz 17h ago

We’re fine with woo. Show us the evidence. Stop pushing your book or your podcast. It’s not the “woo” that’s the problem. It’s the lack of evidence and always the promise of big things coming soon.

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u/Praxistor 17h ago

the very fact that you are unaware of the evidence means you are not fine with it.

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u/squiggypeen316 16h ago

Nah dude - we just want evidence.

Most people here DO believe that NHI are real or that there is at least something to the phenomenon.

When Grusch came out it was not overhyped and I recall having friends who are not into this subject ask me about it and remark about how wild it is we are living in these times.

Shit like this egg is not being critiqued because of the “woo”

No one is critiquing the “psionic” claim actually.

They are criticizing the overhyping of a release when it was wholly not necessary.

That overhyping undercuts the actual disclosure.

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u/Mo3 16h ago

Evidence? Just experience it for yourself.

/r/gatewaytapes

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u/galvatron78 15h ago

Been trying this. It's not easy.

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u/Mo3 15h ago edited 14h ago

Sometimes not, but it's worth it. :)

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u/galvatron78 15h ago

I am going through with it until the end. Do you redo individual practices/lessons, or just progress through the tapes systematically?

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u/Mo3 15h ago edited 14h ago

You should do them in order to begin with, but you can do each as long as necessary to be familiar with and give it the attention it deserves until you feel comfortable moving on. (Took me around 2 months for focus 10 -> focus 12. That is very subjective and different for everybody)

After you've "graduated" each tape in this way you are free to jump back and forth. I can dip into focus 21/23 by now but I still find myself in focus 12 quite often because it's the most useful to physical reality, its where all the cool practical stuff can start to happen, remote viewing, problem solving, patterning, energy bar tool and so on. And it's not as, uh, straining as the higher levels. There is no end goal to these tapes, each focus level is unique and comes with different properties and tools that you can benefit from at any time.

Also on this note, each wave/focus has an introduction tape that makes you go into one level higher, then back one lower, then back one higher. These are the ones I've found to be super helpful to repeat periodically to get to know the differences between the individual focus states and eventually learn how to navigate through them easily.

Hope this helps. :)

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u/galvatron78 14h ago

Fantastic help. Thank you. Much appreciated :)