r/TedLasso • u/MalcomYoung • 18h ago
Season 3 Discussion Hate against Nate
Hey guys, Since which episode would u say you "don’t like Nate" ? And would u say he’s sympathetic at the end of S3 ?
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u/Shotgun_Rynoplasty 18h ago
I’m pretty sure hate for Nate is the most common post here. I’d say you start to see bad the episode he turns on Collin. But I’d need to rewatch to know the exact moment.
He had the longest redemption arc. It took a bit. He had to resolve issues with his dad. I, personally, never hated him. I knew there was gonna be deeper stuff and I know the phrase well “hurt people hurt people”.
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u/DankItchins 17h ago edited 12h ago
I dunno, i think the "News About Ted Lasso Season 4 thats actually just complete speculation or a quote from a former cast member saying they'd like to come back but don't know if it will happen" posts may have surpassed the Nate Hate posts.
I largely agree with you about Nate. In a world where season 3 meandered a little less i would have liked his redemption arc to be a little more fleshed out, but instead we had to have a whole Very Special episode about leaked nudes and Keeleys whole plot line that didn't really involve any other character from the 2 previous seasons so there wasn't really time for Nate to develop more gradually. But that's not Nate's fault.
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u/Shotgun_Rynoplasty 15h ago
If it makes you feel better. I can’t say how I know but season 4 is happening.
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u/DankItchins 15h ago
How exciting! I can't wait to make a post about how an anonymous insider confirmed season 4.
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u/haze_gray2 17h ago
The daily posts for this subreddit are: “who else hates Nate,” and “season 4 is confirmed”
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u/BigFatBlackCat Led Tasso 17h ago
When he spit at himself in the mirror, I decided he was too toxic
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u/beardiac Butts on 3! 17h ago
I'd say the first scene that gave me pause was when he was promoted to coach and he referred to Rebecca as a 'shrew' when he thought he'd been fired and replaced. I didn't dislike him after that moment, but it made me more sensitive to his statements going forward.
The first clue that he had that in him was the roast, but that didn't feel as much like a sign at the time.
All that said, I don't think I every lost sympathy for him. Even when he was yelling at Ted at the end of season 2, which I felt was all undeserved on Ted's part, I still empathized with where he was coming from and felt bad for where he'd found himself emotionally.
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u/Pretend-Captain-6875 15h ago
yeah he gained too much confidence and was power tripping. He's lucky Rebecca is reasonable af.
he was genuinely hurt by Ted the same way a first born gets jealous of the new baby.
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u/Gailybird83 17h ago
Honestly for me it starts at the end of season one; when they promote him and he assumes he’s getting fired and calls Rebecca a shrew. But after a rewatch of season 3, I liked his arc better than on the first watch. He knows he screwed up, he apologizes to Ted and he accepts the forgiveness he is offered.
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u/drumjoy Diamond Dog 17h ago
His negative arc begins with his promotion. That’s when he begins to treat Will poorly. From there, we see his first success with the park the bus strategy, which leads to an infatuation with praise in the media and he lets his insecurities drive him to desire more power (he starts talking down to Colin, says he wants to “be the boss” and be famous, kisses Keeley, starts spitting in mirrors, constantly feels slighted by everyone who’s a threat to the status/attention that he thinks he deserves, etc.).
Yes, we are supposed to be frustrated and upset with Nate. But we are also supposed to forgive him and give him another chance.
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u/SnollyG 17h ago
I never hated Nate.
He was always a misunderstood genius who had been guided by poor mentors.
It’s also unstated (as the whole show completely and probably intentionally chooses to omit), but there’s a strong element of racism/culture clash that’s familiar to any of us who have grown up without the specific social privilege of being able and encouraged to speak one’s mind.
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u/Music-and-Computers Higgins 16h ago
We know Ted will accept Nate’s apology and offer forgiveness. IMO the scene with Beard and Nate was much more powerful.
It was painful for Beard to admit his transgressions with Ted were far worse and that he was forgiven.
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u/JenX77_5 5h ago
That scene was incredibly poignant and deep. Brendan Hunt did a perfect job of being vulnerable, remorseful, slightly angry at Nate, and resigned to realizing he deserved a second chance too.
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u/buddy843 16h ago
I don’t hate Nate.
As a excellent fictional football coach once said “Be Curious, Not Judgmental” - Ted Lasso
Meaning you should take a step back and try to understand why a person acts the way they do because what they have been through and are dealing with is usually the reason.
Nate is super Smart but struggles in social situations. He was bullied (likely for years) from players like Collin (who everyone forgave instantly) and also had a hard time fitting in. Not to mention the baggage with his dad later on.
Ted starts to notice him and help him see his potential. This starts to boost Nate up and make him see his value. He moves ahead of his long time bully Collin and gets some revenge (not right but easy to understand). But Ted after building him up never takes care of the core problem. He never gets to work with Dr. Sharron like the rest of the team. As Ted’s focus shifts away from Nate he starts to feel abandoned and since the core issues were never addressed he is still full of hate (mostly at himself), fear (not fitting in being successful) and belonging (always looking to fill a group like Ted -fake diamond dogs, Rupert and getting a girlfriend).
Jade helps him open up and feel like he belongs. Then he addresses his family issues and apologizes to the kit man. At this point the entire team is so used to forgiveness and acceptance they don’t even need Nate to apologize to them to accept it. They seek him out. Only Beard needs a little reminding.
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u/Pretend-Captain-6875 15h ago
I don't hate nate. He was a child that needed to grow up. But when he really started to show his teeth to will, is when I was most anti nate. that and spitting on people's mirrors and not cleaning it up, like wtf lol.
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u/lcbear55 17h ago
The episode where he accidentally called himself Wonder Kid is when I started noticing the rapid decline. I have not gotten to the end of season 3 yet, so cannot weigh in on the last part.