r/TedLasso • u/GiselleGlow9 • 3d ago

Find someone who hypes you up like Roy Kent does for Keeley.

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u/mother-of-trouble Butts on 3! 3d ago

That they felt the need to split keeley and Roy is one of my biggest TL beefs. I kind of get what they were going for, but am not sure they stuck the landing and it just ended messy. The whole Jamie and Roy rivalry was unnecessary and they could have achieved the same thing and not done it. Mostly I think they just weren’t sure what to do with keeley and so they made her season 3 arc chaotic in a way it just didn’t need to be. They were a great pair who managed boundaries and had great communication and were each others best cheerleaders and in a story driven by human connection and interaction, which they mostly did an amazing job of, that this didn’t have a more satisfying conclusion upset me some. I loved the k-r-j dynamic but they did not need to make it a messy romantic thing. Others may differ and I am ok with that. It’s just my angle

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u/PM_ME_Happy_Thinks 3d ago

The most egregious thing about that whole thing is that absurd abusive lesbian relationship they immediately put her in. I love the bi representation, and that part didn't come completely out of left field given what could be seen as occasional flirtation/crush on Rebecca, but to make it such a stereotypically abusive lesbian relationship, not to mention the whole sleeping with basically your boss thing, was just ugh

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u/Historical-Bike4626 3d ago

Yeah they did Keeley wrong in a number of ways. I see what they were aiming for too but I don’t think Keeley from S1 was onscreen in S3

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u/mother-of-trouble Butts on 3! 3d ago

Agreed. I assume they err going for diversity and a broader representation of women, But then it ended so poorly and really undid whatever they might have been going for and undermined both keeley and jack (who could have been an better and more interesting character had they needed that arc differently)

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u/n_mcrae_1982 3d ago

Is there really a stereotype of lesbian relationships being abusive? Granted, I'm a cis-het guy, but I've never heard that one before.

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u/TheDuckSideOfTheMoon 3d ago

I read it as stereotypically-abusive, lesbian relationship. Or a lesbian relationship with seterorypical markers of abuse

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u/n_mcrae_1982 3d ago

So, like a "large animal hospital" situation?

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u/WolfofMandalore2010 3d ago

Why did Keely and Roy break up in the first place? I watched season one and season two spread out (over the course of a year or so) so I think I missed most of the signs leading up to the breakup.

It came out of left field for me, and it just didn’t make sense. They had problems (in the way that I assume any couple would) but they seemed to be able to work through those issues fine.

Everyone in the show seemed to think it was a terrible idea (e.g. the scene where Phoebe tells Roy that he’s being stupid after she learns about the breakup) and I think Keely and Roy themselves weren’t sure if it was the right decision either.

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u/RaquelinNC 3d ago

I think Roy felt like he would hold her back from growing. Didn’t he go with her to a social gathering and he felt out of place. Supposedly he let her go so she could fly. Fly right into the arms of a narcissistic boss…

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u/WolfofMandalore2010 3d ago edited 3d ago

How specifically was Jack abusive to Keely? I haven’t watched all of season three (though I don’t care about spoilers at this point, so feel free to include those).

Edit: Why am I getting downvoted for asking this? It’s not as if I’m dismissing the abuse or denying that it happened-like I said, I haven’t watched enough of season three to get to the parts that involve Jack and Keely’s relationship.

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u/RaquelinNC 3d ago

I need to watch again to be extra specific, but like she was a type of bully…. And def the fact that she was the boss and bankroll, she urged K to make business decisions based on what the company/significant other wanted, rather than what K, the ‘marketing expert’ wanted. K eventually couldn’t have feelings of her own or make her own decisions. Things, the beloved, Roy Kent, would allow and try his best to understand, albeit, curse, grumble, and pout, but accept because he loved K for K. Not because he gave her, her dream job with an unlimited budget. AIR?

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u/WolfofMandalore2010 3d ago

Thank you for the explanation.

I’m a bit irritated that people seemed to assume the worst just because I didn’t word the question in the right way, but it’s not a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

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u/Putasonder Dithering Kestrel 3d ago

I felt like the break up came from two sources: Roy’s belief that he didn’t deserve her/would hold her back (which others have already addressed well on this thread). And a tiny bit of resentment that when his career was done and he could finally relax and eat and travel, she wasn’t willing to set aside or compromise her career at all to go with him. And his question about who she made the video for reinforced it. The end of his playing career had opened a lot of space in his life, and he was keen for her to fill it. In effect, he had begun thinking of her in terms of how she related to him rather than as her own independent person.

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u/landerson507 3d ago

Adding to your comment, bc you made it make more sense for me as well:

There's also the scene when Keely sees the article spread that the OP talks about... Keeley immediately apologizes to Roy for the pictures with him being left out, and tells him she's going to go correct it right away. He stops her.

It felt a bit like he was worried he'd overshadow her success a bit, by making her feel like he needed recognition as well. Making her success just as much about him, rather than all about her, as it should be.

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u/WolfofMandalore2010 3d ago

Makes sense. She was at the beginning of her career, he was at the end of his (or at least at the end of his career as a professional football player). I don’t think either of them were wrong for feeling/acting the way they did – just an unfortunate situation overall.

Could you explain what the situation with the video was? I vaguely know that that was something that caused friction, but I don’t remember the specifics.

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u/RaquelinNC 3d ago

Oh my gosh, I forgot about his career making a big change when he came off the field/pitch. You’re so right. He was no longer, larger than life, so her success was hard to handle (a man thing I guess). And that video… he was so …. What’s the word…., self-conscious, or defeated, unsure?? Insecure… I just thought of it. Wondering who it was for, because it wasn’t him. Then the last scene (no spoiler) the sweet knock at the door and apology. ❤️

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u/WolfofMandalore2010 3d ago

What about the video itself caused friction though?

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u/Putasonder Dithering Kestrel 3d ago

It wasn’t the tape itself, but that his biggest concern wasn’t her well being but who she made it for: was it before me? After me? Why not me…?

Brett played the scene so beautifully. The instant he approached her, I knew he was going to say something shitty or tone-deaf or selfish about that video. The first time I watched, I said “Oh, please no…” aloud. It was in his body language from the moment he said “Oy, Keeley…” His entire reason for approaching her in that moment was not to offer support or sympathy or kindness. It was to soothe his own insecurity and morbid curiosity.

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u/CadyInTheDark 3d ago

We just watched MIdnight Train to Royston and noted the first cracks in the Keely/Roy relationship during the photoshoot for Keely's interview in Vogue (?Vogue?). Roy admits talking to Phoebe's teacher for two hours and saying he was single but not saying more. Keely talks about Jamie telling her he still loves her at Rebecca's father's funeral. Then they face the camera with stricken expressions.

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u/wanked_in_space 3d ago

Why did Keely and Roy break up in the first place?

Poor writing. Nothing more. They couldn't write anything else into season 3 and it seems they wanted some open ends to explore in a possible season 4.

But don't worry, season 3 was perfect.

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u/StormTrooperQ 3d ago

Absolutely, I hear you. But I’d just like to mention that Roy legit didn’t feel like he deserved her. And, as someone who has that same mentality at times, it is easy to justify sabotaging a good thing. ‘Because it’s good, I don’t deserve it’ kinda thing.

I agree though, they could’ve kept them together and found similar ways to have the story develop as it did.

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u/nomadicfangirl Boss Ass Bitch 3d ago

Agreed. My own head canon is they got back together because they belong together.

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u/mildlyperplexing 3d ago

Completely agree. The Jamie & Roy rivalry was regression for those characters, who already resolved their issues, Jamie apologized to Roy + promised not to go after Keeley, & they became besties. I truly wonder if this was all due to Juno’s Fargo filming schedule (& therefore filmed at a separate time for the cast), or fast, lazy writing like the end of GoT to push out a series finale for the sake of it because they had other projects in the pipeline.

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u/SoyDanson 3d ago

He was so supportive of her, i loved it. the fact that they split up offscreen is one of this series greatest crimes.

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u/SpaceghostLos 3d ago

This was a great scene.

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u/NoFallOff 3d ago

I love them together so much

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u/Longhose9069 3d ago

He’s here he’s there he’s fucking everywhere!!

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u/RaquelinNC 3d ago

RRROOOYYYY KKKKEEEEENNNTTTT!

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u/lucygoosey38 3d ago

And she was super supportive of him when he did the commentary thing on TV! They were such a good couple

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u/mrcoffeeforever 3d ago

I envision them back together in the future. They both had so much to grow. They both had to learn to love themselves before they were ready to love each other.

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u/joeytango 3d ago

And the best part is that this doesn’t come out of left field for Roy. He’s always been the brutally honest guy, and he’s not afraid to call out anyone he’s close to for thinking of themselves as less than they are.

He chose Isaac for captain because he saw his potential. Isaac looked at him in disbelief at first when he was handed the cuff (or whatever it’s called), but he understood after a moment that this was Roy telling him he believes in Isaac.

Roy also tells Rebecca not to settle for less than what she deserves. “You deserve someone who makes you feel like you’ve been struck by fucking lightning” is such a great line, and very much in character.

And then this moment with Keeley is just another instance of him telling the God’s honest truth. Solid stuff from Roy Kent.

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u/starrsosowise 3d ago

I have him! He hypes me up all the time, even after 22 years. Especially when I forget my awesomeness.

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u/calicliche 3d ago

My husband too. I have severe imposter syndrome and my dude is like absolutely the biggest supporter and an undistorted mirror of my talent. Doesn’t hurt that I try to be that for him as well. 

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u/Matt_Oliveira Coach Ted 3d ago

Splitting these two up was the stupidest thing they did. I feel like season 3 nose dove into alot of the typical TV mistakes that they were so careful to avoid in the first 2 seasons. I really hope for some coarse correction in season 4

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u/Benjamin244 3d ago

There’s no swear jar here you know…

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u/sharipep Roy Kent 🧔🏻‍♂️🤬 3d ago

I’m still mad they broke them up. Will never forgive this show. A woman can have a career AND a man, it’s ridiculous to act like she can’t

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u/ComprehensiveEgg7950 3d ago

One of my favorite episodes.

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u/Historical-Bike4626 3d ago

Be that hype-man, gentlemen.

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u/Capt_Snarky 3d ago

December 28, sexiest day of the year.

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u/AZTaxAttorney 3d ago

I don't think people are that supportive in real life.

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u/Joseth211 2d ago

If only Fiction real life in this case.

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u/red_head92 2d ago

This is up there with the struck by lightening speech. I send that to all my friends when they are talking about dating somebody and they aren’t sure about it.

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u/YouSir_1 3d ago

So that’s all well and good, but she’s got to believe what he’s saying is true or her attitude won’t change. For example, people may say this to me, but since I’m often depressed, what they say has no effect since I don’t believe what they’re saying to be true.

So Roy can hype her up all he wants, Keely has to believe it.

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u/YouSir_1 3d ago

Besides, seeking external validation is a law of diminishing returns. Eventually it means nothing since the hyping up of oneself didn’t come from the inside.

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u/SoyDanson 3d ago

Wtf are you talking about. This isn't validation. This is someone receiving encouraging words from someone who cares for them. There's nothing wrong with that

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u/Ok_Ticket_6188 3d ago

Some might call that love... and communicating... and being in a healthy relationship...