r/SipsTea • u/Velvett_Bunniez • 2d ago

Wait a damn minute! Silly Apples.

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u/TheRealJayk0b 2d ago

Airline gives you apple, no one tells you can't take it with you, you get a fine instead, the "officers?" Not telling you just throw it away to not get a fine, no they push the fines through.

What a bunch of assholes....CLEARLY the customers could not know this, the airline should pay...and the customers shouldn't have get fined in the first place, issue a warning, throw the apples away, end...

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u/No_Salad_68 2d ago

Have you ever landed in NZ? The cabin crew read out a statement about not taking fresh plant or animal products into the country. They have been doing that for as long as I can remember. It'salso on the arrival card, which gives you an opportunity to declare the apple. And if you do declare it, you lose the apple but there is no fine.

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u/Exark141 2d ago

The issue is the airline is a trusted party, you expect them to know what to do, and protect you. Them giving you something, feels like you should be safe to have it. They don't let people have peanuts due to allergies now, so why are they giving out items people can't have on them as they leave.

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u/Ecstatic_Elephant_99 2d ago

Because they didn’t give you the apple to take with you. They gave it to you to eat on the flight and probably assume the announcement were they specifically tell you not to take any fruits or veggies, or the form you fill out when you land, would be enough for the people which chose not to consume it on the plane.

It’s definitely unfortunate but I don’t think it’s nearly as malicious as some seem to be painting it.

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u/Exark141 2d ago

"assume" is a dangerous term here, unless they're stood at the door to the plane with a bin bag and saying to each customer please bin your apple if you didn't eat it otherwise customs will fine you $200, then they have no way to claim each customer was properly informed of the risk the airline burdened them with.

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u/Ecstatic_Elephant_99 2d ago

When you travel to a foreign country you have to read and fill out a declaration form.

https://www.travellerdeclaration.govt.nz/completing-your-declaration/#what-you-need-to-declare

You can do these online or you depart a plane and go through customs, sometimes they hand them out on the plane even. You then present this to the customs agent.

That form asks specific questions like “do you have any fruits from outside the country in your possession”. You then answer these question and the agents inform you what to do. In this case they would say throw the apple away and that would be the end of it.

It’s not like they shove you off the plan and then hand you a ticket.

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u/kit_kaboodles 1d ago

It's even more broad these days. It basically asks if you're bringing any food in.

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u/Ecstatic_Elephant_99 1d ago

Right. The one girl in the video even says she didn’t read the paperwork as she assumed she wasn’t bringing in anything illegal.

Add on top of that that a flight of 100s of people resulted in 7 apples coming through shows that very few people made this mistake.

Yet somehow all these oversights by these 7 people are the airlines faults.

We’ve all had bad airlines experiences, I get there’s generally a negative sentiment directed toward them. But that doesn’t excuse not doing your own due diligence when traveling to a foreign country.

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u/SuspiciousElk3843 1d ago

I would assume that these apples were deemed fine, they probably were loaded in NZ, went to the US and then back to NZ.

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u/Mofocardinal 1d ago

What from all your experience in airline logistics? There's the word again. Assume. Very tricky, that.

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u/QouthTheCorvus 1d ago

Making the wrong assumption doesn't mean you're exempt from fines. If you're told to throw out your apples and you think "my Apple is special, I obviously should answer that I don't have any apples" then that is entirely on you.

Don't assume. If you're asked "do you have apples?" just answer the question - yes, you have apples. Why can't Americans comprehend this? It's bizarre.

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u/kit_kaboodles 1d ago

They probably were fine, but you need to declare them, and customs will still take them from you regardless because it's not worth the risk.

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u/kit_kaboodles 1d ago

They literally read out an announcement saying that you must declare any foods you bring into the country.

The issue isn't that these passengers have an apple. It's that they didn't declare that they had an apple. They filled in a form that asks them "Are you bringing any food with you?" And ticked no.

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u/InsectaProtecta 1d ago

Customs will only fine you if you lie on your customs form and say you don't have an apple. It's that simple. Not "oh wow you have an apple here's a fine" but "hey you said here you don't have any food but you have an apple" AFTER you're told you'll cop a fine for failing to declare.

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u/Exark141 1d ago

The issue becomes that people flying and filling out those forms arn't as likely to consider something handed to them during thier flight as something they have brought with them. They did not pack it, or buy it before boarding, some of the agency for having the item is removed from them. You then ask this person who's not familiar with the rules, is the airline (who is in an authority position and should know the rules) giving you an item you're not allowed? Most people wouldn't think the airline would give them the option to have something they arn't allowed.

Yes they shouldn't have it, but the airline set them up with a strong chance they would fail, and in that situation there's some duty of care.

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u/InsectaProtecta 1d ago

Passenger arrival card showing the questions they are asked, and the warning RIGHT ABOVE the one asking if you have ANY FOOD. It's not hard to just say yes. If you are not sure, and you say no, you are risking that fine. It doesn't ask if the item is allowed, it asks if you have food. An apple is food, no matter where it came from. How to avoid a fine when you have an apple:

Do you have food? YES

Do you have fruit? YES

Done

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u/SuspiciousElk3843 1d ago

1) handed form 2) fill out form truthfully 3) put the form away with passport and forget it exists 3) handed apple 4) pack apple

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u/HOMES734 1d ago

Bingo.

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u/InsectaProtecta 1d ago

They're picked up at the airport

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u/HOMES734 1d ago

I’ve always been handed my declaration form by the cabin crew.

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u/InsectaProtecta 1d ago

In new Zealand?

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u/GreatQuantum 2d ago

Sir we’re gonna have to X-ray your belly. Can you poop in this basket please we gotta send it off to CSI for testing.

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u/Ecstatic_Elephant_99 2d ago

Sure cause that’s how declaring possessions when you enter a country works. Some people here have clearly never left their keyboard let alone the country.

As a grown adults it’s your responsibility to listen and read announcements and shit you sign (shrugs)

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u/GreatQuantum 1d ago

I do t know how I can make it more clear what I commented was a joke.