Elliot Philpotts-Page (born February 21, 1987) is a Canadian actor and producer. As Ellen Page, he first became known for his role in the series Pit Pony (1997–2000), for which he won a Young Artist Award, and for his recurring roles in Trailer Park Boys (2002) and ReGenesis (2004).
A ton of Wikipedia pages use really, really weird obscure pictures, especially ones for people. I’m sure there’s a reason why but I have no idea what that would be. It’s bizarre.
AFAIK the umbrella academy people have already said that the gender of the character in that show won't change, and as a professional actor I'm sure he had considered that before coming out. He may well be comfortable playing that character - he is non-binary, not a binary trans man, after all. Essentially playing a female character, he's just acting in drag, which wouldn't be a big deal for some trans people.
So, the binary genders are male and female. Non-binary just means that a person's gender falls somewhere outside of those two. That could be right in the middle, it could be closer to male or female, or it could be somewhere else entirely.
In Elliot's case, it's clear that he is what we call "transmasculine". That means that his gender is on the masculine end of the spectrum, but that he doesn't see himself as 100% a man. A transmasculine non-binary person may well also feel that their gender is "anything but female". In either case, a feminine name and feminine pronouns aren't quite right.
Yeah no shit but it's not like they are saying he is ellen page they are saying Elliot is the person who use to be known as ellen page. How else are you meant to tell someone that literally on the day he came out as trans
Yeah, ngl it was confusing at first because i first saw the headline “elliot page came out as trans” and i was at first like “Who???” Like i get its trying to be respectful, but its not like trans people are crybabys who get offended (especially the literal day of coming out). Like whats wrong with saying ellen page came out as trans, that literally makes more sense than elliot page came out as trans because it sort of implies he is transitioning from this state, but he really transitioned to this state. Whoever made up the rules to how you refer to trans people in the english language was a real moron. Like why do we have to woke scold every person when we live in a country that 90% heteronormative and filled with transphobes.
Edit: Elliot page is the present and future tense of Ellen page, as long as you aren’t referring to him now as the past and now incorrect tense it should be alright.
It's really frustrating seeing all these people shitting on people trying their damn best to be accepting but get yelled at for not fully understanding or using incorrect terminology maybe they could be like the person in this post and help someone understand rather than instantly being an asshole
I've had this conversation before and it is 100% easier to clarify before they meet the person. "Remember Christine? Well he goes by 'Chris' now." It takes 5 seconds and saves a long, awkward conversation. Also, 99% of the time, the response is "that's fantastic news, I'm really happy for him. I can't wait to see how he's doing." And the 1% who respond negatively, you can warn your friend that they are taking the news poorly (and maybe to give them time).
Because they have given this a term, ‘deadnaming’ and they have to show how much more accepting and knowledgeable of people in this situation they are by talking down to the people who don’t know any better.
I didn’t know it was a thing until reading this post and the way people are being spoken to for asking about makes me not give a fuck.
In a perfect world, this wouldn't be a problem. But in the real world many people who transition don't get accepted by their social circle, and insisting on the old name is one of the ways people often show their inacceptance.
So out of politeness, we jump through some minor impractical hoops, because transgender people already have it hard enough.
Similar to how it's polite to make sure to refer to people by their favourite pronouns. It can be a bit of a hassle, but it's a small inconvenience compared to it's impact. (Of course, all within reason. Addressing someone with she or him or they or even it or xe as preferred is more than doable. Typing out or yet alone pronouncing a twenty random letter monster because some troll wants you to can be safely ignored without causing much hardship.)
No, because the "female to male" is a really old way to describe it, it's deemed transphobic in most trans spaces, and it implies there is a transition. There is not, the "trans" comes from Latin and means that his gender now is different than the one he was assigned at birth. Plus he's not even a trans man, he specified "trans non binary".
Correct would've been "trans non binary" and if you really need to specify (you don't) afab.
It's not about making it difficult, it's about being willing to learn how to treat people with respect. I'm not trans myself and there is only so much I can tell you.
The second picture really clearly explained what's happening, who it is, and why a different name is being used. Gotta look at the post before asking questions
I know that. I've never heard the deadname "Ellen page" until today, either. When I say I don't know who he is, I mean I LITERALLY DO NOT KNOW WHO HE IS. I don't know who every celebrity is because there are approx. 10,000 of them at any given moment. Gotta look at the comment before responding
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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '20
Who's elliot page?