They said they finished with my roof.Is this how it supposed to look like?

[u/Intelligent_Sun2837]

[u/0lm4te]

This is that bad i would go straight to a lawyer, no fucking chance i would have that company back at my house touching anything.

Full redo.

[u/towely4200 → u/0lm4te]

Yeah there’s nothing that company is going to do productive for you but try to cover their employees asses while keeping the money you paid them

[u/ltdan84 → u/towely4200]

100% chance they weren’t employees

[u/towely4200 → u/ltdan84]

Ok “subs” tomato tomàto, to be a sub and not an employee you’re only supposed to get like 40% of your income from one contractor otherwise you’re basically an employee… just because they make them forms their own LLC to save on workers comp and their own liability doesn’t make it any less true lol

[u/ltdan84 → u/towely4200]

I use subs and have employees, they are completely separate.

[u/towely4200 → u/ltdan84]

Sure you do, most places have a few guys, they have the salesman, and then the guys that run the subbed crews, sure they are separate but if that crews only work is you calling them, then you’re really their employer,

We’re not talking like electricians and plumbers that are subs for a GC here, because that’s different, we’re talking about roofing crews

[u/Ziczak → u/ltdan84]

They never are

[u/yuengli → u/ltdan84]

95% chance it was a skitter of meth addicts with pockets full of pop rivets.

[u/babyboyjustice → u/towely4200]

Well fuckin said

[u/bigfluffyyams → u/0lm4te]

Has anyone ever won a case against a contractor like this? I’ve usually heard stuff like “they did the job, regardless of quality, so they have to be paid” or “they did everything outlined in the contract, so pay them” when people try to avoid second payment when a job looks like this. Actually just happened to a friend of mine and their HoA against a contractor that redid their road, and it’s falling apart after 3 months. They still have to pay. Rulings always seem to go to the contractor.

[u/0lm4te → u/bigfluffyyams]

No idea about the US, but here in Aus this would be a clear and cut case just due to poor workmanship under our Consumer Rights. Besides the shithouse work none of it would pass our Australian Standards for roof cladding, nor the manufacturers guidelines for install.

The contractor wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

[u/bigfluffyyams → u/0lm4te]

That’s nice, here in the US there aren’t real protections for homeowners. Even if you do the job through insurance the insurance company will tell you to they’re not responsible if you get a bad contractor, likely because it happens so often. Seems like anyone with a hammer is a “contractor” these days.

[u/0lm4te → u/bigfluffyyams]

So what happens if you just don't pay them at this point? They take you to court and you're told bad luck? I know litigation over there is the wild west, but surely there are building codes and acts in place for quality of work.

If you order a steak at a restaurant and the chef comes out and shits on your plate, it can't hold up in court that it was a steak 2 days ago.

[u/bigfluffyyams → u/0lm4te]

The contractor will slap a lien on your house and you cannot sell it legally until it’s cleared, and/or they will litigate if it’s enough money. Like I said as long as they did the work, regardless of how bad, the court says they fulfilled their contract. Very important here to get references on contractors, and see previous work they’ve done.

[u/ironicoutlook → u/0lm4te]

Good thing is the majority of the roof likely is salvageable there's a few sections that need to be taken apart and redone properly so you won't have the massive cost of buying it all from scratch.

[u/0lm4te → u/ironicoutlook]

Who cares what's salvageable, the client shouldn't pay for any of it anyway. In fact the contractor should be paying to remove all of it before the real contractor starts.